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1. Ben Lawson

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   03/23, 10:39am | report spam | close reply

   Itchy Fingers

   I can't believe how fast people have started "hacking" the Apple TV! Bigger hard drives, non-HD compatibility, adding video codecs, etc. Seems like there's a lot of tweakers out there that like the concept but want just one more feature...

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1. trevj

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   03/23, 10:53am | report spam | close reply

   huh?

   "Installing the SSH server Dropbear, the video container Perian, and a custom script" Heck is that all? I'll get grandma right on it.

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1. TheBum

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   03/23, 11:03am | report spam | close reply

   quicktime wrapper?

   Couldn't an XviD movie be placed inside a QuickTime wrapper, turning it into a .mov file, or does iTunes check the codecs inside the .mov file before allowing them to sync?

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1. rotuts

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   03/23, 11:15am | report spam | close reply

   Boot from this HD?

   Id like to know is this mini OS bootable or is it just a 'HD" that comes up with the main full OS as the boot? if so: how to you 'add' to the mini OS? copy/paste?
   
   cheers

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1. lmhaffner

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   03/23, 11:20am | report spam | close reply

   re: huh?

   "Heck is that all? I'll get grandma right on it."
   
   I think it's meant to contrast with something more drastic like having to modify the hardware or hack firmware. Just installing a few things on the HD does seem pretty easy for anyone that has desire enough to go outside the box, so to speak...

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1. Guest

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   03/23, 12:27pm | report spam | close reply

   why

   Why go through all this work to support Xvid? Is the codec that much better than Apples H.264 codec?

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1. mgpalma

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   03/23, 12:35pm | report spam | close reply

   What I want is...

   The Apple TV interface on my Macmini! I would love to see this as my Macmini (coreduo) has more capabilities then the Apple TV. Since people were able to hack Front Row onto non-supported Macs I would think it should be possible. Any thoughts?

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1. technomaster

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   03/23, 01:30pm | report spam | close reply

   Benefits...

   Well... a huge benefit of hacking is that you'll be able to play whatever content you want, in whatever format through the Apple TV box.
   
   You won't be limited to mov files you buy or things that natively come in that format. This potentially opens the door to all the DIVX/XVID/WMV/AVI/etc and "whatever the hip open format of the day is" content out there.
   
   Makes the Apple TV that much more appealing a device. (No more need for the trusty Phillips DVP642!)

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1. UberFu

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   03/23, 04:19pm | report spam | close reply

   "quicktime wrapper?"

   All you have to do is run this thru some conversion software and export out to whatever format you want_
   
   "Why go through all this work to support Xvid? Is the codec that much better than Apples H.264 codec?"
   
   Not sure myself_ My guess is that Xvid/DivX are older formats than h.263/4_ And they aren't HD formats_ So my question becomes - why would one want to downgrade the play quality of a machine to meet the standards of a lesser format_
   
   [read sarcasm] Yep - I bought a DVD player when they first came out and then instead of buying DVD based copies of the movies I owned - I opted to copy the VHS versions onto blank DVDs [end]
   
   Otherwise I think they do it because it's there_

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1. Titanium Man

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   03/24, 12:40am | report spam | close reply

   Xvid

   Xvid is definitely older and less advanced than H.264. People may want it because a lot of content (almost all pirated) is available in that format in places like Usenet. H.264 content is still very rare except from Apple and on Blu-ray, mainly because it takes a lot more time and CPU power to encode in H.264. Whatever kind of "wrapper" doesn't matter. Quicktime (and thus iTunes) does not have built-in support to play back Xvid. That's what this hack is about, adding that support.

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1. 010111

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   03/24, 03:50pm | report spam | close reply

   um...?

   "Why go through all this work to support Xvid? Is the codec that much better than Apples H.264 codec?"
   
   it isn't really a codec vs. codec discussion.
   
   this hack (eventually perhaps) is a h*** of a lot easier than making a decompression/recompression cycle from one lossy format to another lossy format. not only because of the quality loss in doing such a thing but because of the shear time involved in such an ordeal. not to mention needing basically double the disk space just to have both the "original" Xvid format videos and the 2nd generation H.264 videos to use on the Apple TV.
   
   there is a *ton* of content in DiVX/Xvid/WMV... all of which play perfectly fine on a Mac... but will not play on the Apple TV.
   
   this is one of the main reasons it became much less appealing to me... i was originally thinking any QT plug-in would magically work on the Apple TV. no such luck. making me (and numerous other people) much less interested.

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1. Guest

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   03/27, 07:25am | report spam | close reply

   Its not

   really hacked though is it, its just made to play different formats, which isnt really "hacking"