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1. testudo

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   03/27, 11:46am | report spam | close reply

   Wow!

   The f'ing excitement of it all!

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1. diamondsw

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   03/27, 12:01pm | report spam | close reply

   NO Finder

   Um, no - there is NOT a Finder there. The Dock and menubar, yes, but no Finder. Check ArsTechnica's excellent writeup for more details, or download a copy of the OS yourself and take a look.

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1. akatsukix

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   03/27, 12:15pm | report spam | close reply

   Leopard

   They will probably make it available for other OSes as part of Leopard anyway. I am sure they would rather sell a Mini over an AppleTV anyday, so why not just include it with the Mini? But then again, the AppleTV is so expensive, maybe their margin is just that much higher.

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1. garmonbosia

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   03/27, 01:29pm | report spam | close reply

   Re: no finder

   If there is no Finder then why is there a Finder icon in the dock?

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1. testudo

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   03/27, 01:49pm | report spam | close reply

   Re: no finder

   If there is no Finder then why is there a Finder icon in the dock?
   
   Because the finder icon is hard-coded/forced into the dock. There's no way to remove it. That's why, when you quit the finder, it stays (although the little arrow will disappear)

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1. testudo

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   03/27, 01:50pm | report spam | close reply

   Re: leopard

   No, it won't. The software's been tested and designed to work with a specific piece of hardware. There's no reason to add the complexity to Leopard for the three people who, for some reason, don't want to use front-row with their mac.

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1. SergioRS

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   03/27, 01:55pm | report spam | close reply

   So......

   Would the converse hold true and allow the MacTV to boot up the full MacOS from a USB or modified internal drive? Enquiring minds want, nay NEED, to know...

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1. JEB

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   03/27, 02:18pm | report spam | close reply

   photoshop

   totally fake
   
   that was rendered with CS3 Photoshop extended version all the way .. ...
   
   hehe
   
   GO APPLE!!! GO APPLE TV!!! GO, UHH, APPLE TV HACKERS!!!

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1. cmoney

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   03/27, 02:45pm | report spam | close reply

   re: so.....

   Yeah I think that's the more interesting question. You'd essentially get a Mac Mini in an even thinner form factor, for half the price. Only HDMI output but hey, just put a 40" LCD on your desktop. Haha.

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1. garmonbosia

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   03/27, 02:59pm | report spam | close reply

   Re:Re: no finder

   If the Finder has been removed, could you copy it back in? Could this version of OSX support other Apps?

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1. UberFu

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   03/27, 03:26pm | report spam | close reply

   re: no finder

   Once Upon A Time - back in the day - when Mac OS X was in Beta Form and also in the 10.0.0 Edition - There was No Finder and an option to disable the Finder [respectively]_
   
   At that point Apple was refering to an open "floating" window as a Finder Window and had done away with the OS 9 version of a Finder_
   
   Because of the out-cry from the die-hard Mac Community - Apple brought back the Finder as we knew it in OS 9 and earlier_
   
   Visually the Finder "acts the same in OS X as it did in OS 9 - but that is where the similarities end_ The OS 9 Operating System ran everything thru the Finder_ Whereas in OS X the Finder is a System Level Application [that basically loads on a layer akin to Rosetta or the Classic interface_
   
   It's not surprising that they migrated this concept to their new product lines_ Unix/OS X is diverse enough to be capable of all sorts of things_ It's the same but different_ It's OS X but presented differently and yet it still reminds you that you are on an Apple product_
   
   I'm sure the iPhone [which is reportedly running a full desktop version of OS X] has been shaped and molded differently than the desktop iteration we are used to_
   
   I'm not expecting to have a Dock with the Finder Icon at the far left - with the Apple logo in the top-left corner and - Oh ! Wait ! Since it's OS X on the iPhone - there needs to be a firewire and USB port so that I can plug in my mouse - keyboard and external drive - 'cause it won't work without the "arrow pointer" that won't be on the screen of my iPhone_ So I won't actually know how to navigate and will have to "hack" into it and throw a "regular" copy of OS X on it - so I can run Photoshop and Final Cut Pro on the damn thing_
   
   C'mon People_ The Apple TV is being marketed for a specific use_ Does it mention in the specs that it's gonna have capacity for 8GBs of RAM anywhere ? No_ then why the h*** do you want to run a copy of MAYA on it ?

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1. - - e r i k - -

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   03/27, 06:33pm | report spam | close reply

   Can't bring finder back

   Finder.app of the ?TV OS is the BackRow software itself.