"The stock price is down today too..looks like the analysts agree with my assessment."

Thanks for letting me start my day with a good laugh!

petsounds = idiot!

Does this translate to

"petsounds equals to idiot not"? Because it should've been written as

petsounds != idiot

Well, now we know what that mystery 12th icon was that bumped the Settings icon over?

on ATV is highly addictive. this might not have been such a good idea.

the interface is very simple, yet surprisingly effective and complete.

i'm not getting an apple tv until my apple pippin has outlived its usefulness.

Idiot? Wow, that's a compelling counter-argument you guys have there.

Do you really think that pushing H.264 content over a non-3G cell phone is a good idea? First of all, you haven't seen much Flash video (and I'm not talking about bottom-of-the-barrel YouTube) if you think its quality is bad. Second, would you rather give up being able to watch video via the cell line just so the YouTube video (which probably wasn't uploaded with great quality to begin with) looks marginally better?

Come on. The real battle here is that Apple doesn't want to endanger their ownership of the iPhone platform by allowing you to load Flash sites that might compete in functionality with future iPhone apps that Apple probably plans to sell you? If you think Flash is just ads, you are thinking about Flash two years ago. A lot of sites mix in Flash components so well that you wouldn't even know. But that means that a lot of major sites will be at least partially broken under iPhone's Safari browser. Are you guys really okay with that? Can you see beyond the Reality Distortion Field for just a moment to reflect on a broken browsing experience? And are you okay from the POV of a stockholder that a lot of other cell manufacturers are lining up to support Flash on their phones while Apple sticks its head in the sand?

"Come on. The real battle here is that Apple doesn't want to endanger their ownership of the iPhone platform by allowing you to load Flash sites that might compete in functionality with future iPhone apps that Apple probably plans to sell you?"

What the heck are you talking about?! We're not talking about Microsoft here.

First, I didn't see anything that said flash would be disabled, only that they worked with Google to "achieve higher video quality and longer battery life on mobile devices".

Second, I'm gonna go out on a limb here & assume Quicktime will be on the iPhone. Perhaps you are not aware of this but quicktime has had the ability to play flash video & animation since it's release on the first Intel Macs!

Do you really think Apple would go to all that trouble to tout the fully featured Safari on iPhone & then turn around & break it by disabling a web technology so crucial as flash?!

Please, go somewhere else to spew your thoughtless conspiracy theories & quit wasting our time.

If it works with mac safari it will work on iPhone. Flash is very cpu intensive and slows everything down. Java is much more efficient. If i want to go to a site i'm a member of and utilize the flash based chat on my mac i better be able to do it on my iPhone as well!

MMS easily added if not initially available. Stop pissing your pants over stuff folks. Unlike most phones this one can actually update its software easily.

hezekiahb said: "First, I didn't see anything that said flash would be disabled, only that they worked with Google to "achieve higher video quality and longer battery life on mobile devices"."

Steve said Flash isn't on the iPhone, June 12th: http://www.tuaw.com/2007/06/12/its-official-no-flash-support-on-the-iphone-yet/

No conspiracy theory. Just fact.

As far as QuickTime goes, AFAIK QuickTime stopped supporting Flash playback around Flash 6. It definitely doesn't support AS 3.0 in Flash 9.

It is certainly possible that Apple is working with Adobe behind the scenes, and maybe we'll see support when Flash Lite 3 debuts this fall. But for now, don't expect Flash to be there.

What is most interesting though about the entire commercial is that the video above the one that the user in the commercial selects is of a copyrighted song. I recognized the video, and also remembered reading earlier about the approach it took:

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2006-11-27-ok-go_x.htm

I wouldn't doubt that it was a conscientious decision of Apple's to strategically place Ok Go's video there. Amazing in fact. What a simple, subtle message to artists and the industry about both the "age of new media" and also the lack of revenue gaining streams and/or copyright/drm concerns. After all, this video is for sale on iTunes for $1.99.

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