Printed from http://www.electronista.com

Apple, Dell planning new Blu-ray notebooks?

updated 03:10 pm EST, Fri February 29, 2008

Apple and Dell Blu-ray

Both Apple and Dell are planning to make significant inroads into Blu-ray over the coming months, according to both official and unofficial sources. Citing an unconfirmed source, AppleInsider claims that Apple has tapped Sony for slot-loading Blu-ray writers for its MacBook Pro systems. Development is said to have been progressing far enough that the drives may have appeared in the most recent update to the portables but were held back by quality issues with both the blue laser and slot-load mechanism, forcing Apple to postpone its plans. A combo drive, which could burn DVDs and CDs but only read Blu-ray discs, was reportedly offered to Apple but turned down.

A release date for any Blu-ray equipped systems remains unknown, though Intel is set to unveil its Centrino 2 and accompanying new Core 2 processors in early June, which provides the earliest opportunity for a new upgrade to the professional notebooks that could add the HD optical drive technology.

Separately, however, Dell plans to offer one of the least expensive Blu-ray notebooks yet, according to statements by technology strategist Brian Zucker. Without providing many details, the expert claims his company will have a portable below the $1,000 mark in March that can at least read Blu-ray media, setting a new point of entry for the format. Dell already offers Blu-ray on many notebooks but often reserves it as an option due to the typically high price for these drives.

It was unclear as to whether the Dell system would be a lower-cost version of an existing option or else a new model entirely, such as a reworked Inspiron line.



By Electronista Staff
Post tools:

TAGS :

toggle

Comments

  1. danviento

    Fresh-Faced Recruit

    Joined: Dec 2005

    0

    Perhaps, perhaps not

    You can be sure Dell will at least try and shove some in their XPS line. Apple may not have a vested interest in including such drives beyond backup, unless their is a burgeoning market in Player sales.

    Apple's HD Video delivery model is based entirely on their hardware at the moment, and has the forward looking model of disc free libraries. Since they're encouraging sales from their store for iPodTouch/iPhone/AppleTV, I doubt we'll see such drives in the consumer notebooks for a while.

    BluRay may have some hope for the MacBookPro, but I doubt it would be standard until the market for entertainment center players matures more. As it is, BluRay is still an expensive add-on in MacPros.

    Perhaps we'll see a second internal drive added to new versions of Apple notebooks. Thoughts?

  1. testudo

    Forum Regular

    Joined: Aug 2001

    0

    Re: perhaps

    Apple may not have a vested interest in including such drives beyond backup, unless their is a burgeoning market in Player sales.

    Yes, got to love how whether, as customers, we can get blu-ray drives is now dependent on whether it interferes too much with Apple's on-line movie business.

    But I thought Apple was always so far ahead of everyone else. Why should they be waiting for more sales of players before including it. Shouldn't they be helping spur the sales? Oh, right, it will cut into their on-line sales business (for which they get a cut).

    And I can't imagine too many people would be happy to have a blu-ray drive in their computer, but it only handled data, not video.

    Apple's HD Video delivery model is based entirely on their hardware at the moment, and has the forward looking model of disc free libraries.

    I wouldn't call it 'forward' looking as just 'different' looking (and not that different, there's several video sites out there). Discs offer a lot more to the consumer then just watching the video. And, as it stands now, you can only rent HD content, and only watch it via an AppleTV.

    Just like with music, there's a lot of people who want to own their movies, TV shows, etc. (not that apple let's you rent TV shows, that would make too much sense). The downloads will supplement the disc, but won't replace it anytime soon.

  1. danviento

    Fresh-Faced Recruit

    Joined: Dec 2005

    0

    re: testudo

    When I said, "had a few networks set up," I meant to say that you're in a few networks. You don't necessarily have to know the people in the networks or groups, but you can send them all an announcement, and plenty of people kill time checking stuff like that.

    Personally, I'm only using FB at the behest of friends who were obsessed with spending time on the site. (you would not believe how many of their hours of work time in class were lost to the site). Why not use the FREE tools that are available?

  1. ender

    Junior Member

    Joined: Mar 1999

    0

    HDCP?

    How do the vendors currently offering blu-ray (a $500 option for Dell) implement the DRM required for blu-ray video? If I'm not mistaken, they'd be required to implement HDCP content protection between the player and the display. Are laptop screen exempt from this? Does that mean you couldn't hook up an external monitor? Or does it mean that, while you can play a blu-ray disc, it will be downconverted to 480p?

  1. kerryb

    Fresh-Faced Recruit

    Joined: Aug 2001

    0

    blu ray snooze

    I know there are those that have to have the latest technologies even when it really doesn't make a significant improvement in their daily work. For the rest of us Blu-ray especially in a laptop doesn't make sense. I can see a Pro machine for backing up big digital files but I see the addition into a notebook as bragging rights only.

  1. danviento

    Fresh-Faced Recruit

    Joined: Dec 2005

    0

    makes sense

    Apple takes a portion of the cost for hosting the apps. for sale on their site. I'd imagine that if they're allowing some apps. that are free that there would be some sort of Apple-Certified deal that went along with those it had tested and can be said not to have any problems with the phone.

    Do you think Apple would allow freeware apps to also carry such a logo? A part of me says that they would because they host them and it draws more eyeballs to their site and products and sponsors. A part of me says they woudn't necessarily, letting, perhaps, .Mac users post aps of this nature.

    What do you think?

  1. Terrin

    Fresh-Faced Recruit

    Joined: Jan 2006

    0

    Terrin

    I really do not see the reason for Apple to adopt Blueray across the board right now. First, the American economy is in the dump, and if it is not already here, we are close to a recession. People simply do not have a lot of spare income. Adding Blueray would raise the cost of any Mac it was added to. Second, Blueray isn't really that compelling a feature yet. Sure, I get more storage and video definition is better. However, I also get enhanced DRM. No thanks. I like burning movies.

  1. testudo

    Forum Regular

    Joined: Aug 2001

    0

    Re: hdcp

    How do the vendors currently offering blu-ray (a $500 option for Dell) implement the DRM required for blu-ray video? If I'm not mistaken, they'd be required to implement HDCP content protection between the player and the display. Are laptop screen exempt from this?

    They're not exempt. But they have the encryption included. Dell also makes LCDs that offer HDMI and HDCP, along with standard video and computer video inputs, which means you could do PIP with the playback and your computer, switch to the video, or whatever. Or you could take an older display and use it as a small HD TV - (can't do any of this with an Apple display, as they offer none of these features).

    Does that mean you couldn't hook up an external monitor?

    You can, if the laptop offers HDMI port (I would assume they would somewhere along the line) with HDCP support.

    Or does it mean that, while you can play a blu-ray disc, it will be downconverted to 480p?

    If you send out the video to a non-encrypted source, it would be down-converted. So using a DVI cable to connect a blue-ray equipped macbook to a TV would not be hi-def.

    Then again, Apple's DVD player doesn't support blue-ray content, so that point is moot. (Some of the DVD players on Windows do, and each has their own 'key' to authorize their use - as you may recall when someone hacked the key by one of the players, allowing rips for movies at the time. The key has since been deactivated).

  1. Deal

    Mac Enthusiast

    Joined: Apr 2001

    0

    Apple needs to

    Just like everybody else, Apple needs to adopt bluray. We archive to bluray disks right now and we need more systems to read them on.

    Bluray needs to be an option. Even if for data reading and writing. I'm sure if it's in there and Apple doesn't support playing BD media, a third party will.

  1. kentuckyfried

    Senior User

    Joined: Jan 2002

    0

    Do it, now

    Now that the HD format wars are now official over Toshiba calling it quits, it's time for Apple to push blu-ray into machines as much as possible, especially if the blu-ray drives are burners too.

    It's not a necessity; but it is a huge convenience. With all the video file content floating around, there's a need for high capacity storage. One can only hold so much in an external hard drive without worry the thing's going to crash. Secondly, now that people will be buying blu-ray movies more and more (or at least renting them), it's great to have that blu-ray drive on the go to watch movies. Now that people are leaning towards purchasing laptops as primary machines, blu-ray should be incorporated.

Login Here

Not a member of the MacNN forums? Register now for free.

toggle

Network Headlines

toggle

Most Popular

Sponsor

Recent Reviews

IDrive cloud backup and sync service

There are a lot of cloud services out there, and nearly all of them can be used for backing up key files and folders. A few dedicated ...

Asus Chromebook C300

When Chromebooks hit the market back in 2011, consumers didn't know what to do with them. The low-cost laptops, powered by Google's Ch ...

Plantronics BackBeat Pro Bluetooth headphones

Looking for a pair of headphones that can do everything a user requires is a task that can take some study. Trying to decide on in-ear ...

Sponsor

toggle

Most Commented

 
toggle

Popular News