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1. Constable Odo

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   02/24, 05:26pm | report spam | close reply

   I don't care much

   about how it looks. It works great on my older DP FW800 G4. Very fast. Loads photo heavy pages in a flash. Beta or not, it's seems very stable in the dozens of sites I've tried so far. It's going on all my computers right now.

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1. Dez

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   02/24, 05:53pm | report spam | close reply

   whirly-gig?

   So they replaced the actual page load progress indicator with a whirlygig? How is that better? On Apple's 'Safari 150 Features' page, it says "At a glance, you can see exactly when a site is finished loading"... actually I find it much less obvious than the blue progress-bar-within-the-address-bar UI

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1. Graeme

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   02/24, 06:40pm | report spam | close reply

   Luv it!

   Works great 17" PBPro OS X 10.5.6. Windows Vista works well too!
   
   I do however miss the tab bar positioned below the bookmarks bar. I wish this was made an option or at least made the tab bar draggable & lockable.

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1. dimmer

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   02/24, 07:19pm | report spam | close reply

   Not so good experience

   While Safari 4 worked well, I started to get kernel issues with address book and DVD player -- not so good. Reverting to Safari 3 was simple though, and resolved the issues. Feedback sent to Apple. Ah well, beta is beta. Looking forward to the next release.

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1. chelsel

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   02/24, 07:35pm | report spam | close reply

   the worst from Chrome

   I have to say Apple screwed up, as far as I'm concerned, in borrowing the most annoying feature in Chrome, the tabs above the address bar.
   
   YUCK!!!
   

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1. scotte75ky

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   02/24, 07:41pm | report spam | close reply

   Tabs

   I actually like the tabs above the address bar. The speed is much faster on my Mac Mini compared to version 3.

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1. Guest

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   02/24, 08:53pm | report spam | close reply

   who cares...

   This is apple we are talking about. So FCK Apple. Got it?
   
   Next thing you know, you need to buy a new mac to run all the features on the new Safari 4. Never surprised by this hardware raping, f** hiring, evil working company.
   
   FCK APPLE!... before it F*cks you!!

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1. cwsmith

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   02/24, 09:15pm | report spam | close reply

   re: who cares

   Who cares about Guest? You sure are brave in your anonymous comments. Grow some balls and log in with a user name or get the h*** out.

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1. luckyday

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   02/24, 09:30pm | report spam | close reply

   Haha

   Where are all the comments about copying ideas now? You can tell Apple is in trouble when...

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1. Guest

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   02/24, 09:40pm | report spam | close reply

   Apple is F*CKED...

   Kiss your overpriced hardware goodbye!!

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1. Guest

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   02/24, 09:44pm | report spam | (1 reply) close | reply

   Apple is F*CKED...

   Kiss your overpriced hardware goodbye!!

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1. Terrin

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   02/24, 09:51pm | report spam | close reply

   Examples

   I love an article that claims Apple is copying things, but doesn't mention what it is copying. Further, I have used Chrome, and I honestly don't see the similarities. So, educate me please.

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1. luckyday

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   02/24, 09:55pm | report spam | close reply

   Terrin

   Two of their biggest changes are stolen: top sites and tabs on top.
   
   And the post tells you to read the full review to read about beta in detail. But how could they expect you to do that when you can't even read the full blurb?

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1. Terrin

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   02/24, 09:56pm | report spam | close reply

   Nice

   I will add. I really like this update. First, the favorite web pages thing is really useful. Second, I like putting the tabs up top as this saves space and is easier to find. Third, I like being able to enlarge entire websites, as opposed to just the text. Fourth, a searchable history is a feature I have been sending Apple requests for the longest time. I am glad Apple is listening. Fifth, it really does feel faster. I haven't found any negative issues yet, but I have only been playing with it for about an hour.

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1. Guest

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   02/24, 10:14pm | report spam | close reply

   not borrowing....

   Does everyone know that what affects Safari's finish is WebKit? What happens to WebKit happens to Safari... Jeez...

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1. Guest

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   not borrowing....

   Does everyone know that what affects Safari's finish is WebKit? What happens to WebKit happens to Safari... Jeez...

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1. Guest

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   to the forum flamer....

   please don't hate the product just cux u are too poor arse to be able to afford one.

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1. Guest

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   re: to the forum flamer..

   You f*****, go work for apple in your white store with white computers.... Apple came for sh!tty background to g** popularity, to bisexual transition, and think it will one day be straight. But the heart and soul is still a rainbow, so, you f**, suck on this!... with your overpriced, forgotten, yester year technology and brag all you want about how stupid you were to drop some money into a S*** hole, try sticking it up your a$$ for better value next time.

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1. Guest

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   re: to the forum flamer..

   You f*****, go work for apple in your white store with white computers.... Apple came from a sh!tful background to g** popularity, to bisexual transition, and thinks it will one day be straight. But the heart and soul is still a rainbow, so, you f**, suck on this!... with your overpriced, forgotten, yester year technology and brag all you want about how stupid you were to drop some money into a S*** hole, try sticking it up your a$$ for better value next time.

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1. Jeff Simpson

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   02/25, 01:17am | report spam | close reply

   Nice!

   Quick, smooth, install, no problems. Staring the new Safari the first time took a bit longer than normal.
   
   Love the tabs along the top, making use of wasted screen estate. History as cover flow is cool as is the multi-paned top sites window. Very nice, Apple.
   
   No Safari-related mods. MacBook Pro, 2, 10.5.6, 2 GB SDRAM, 2 GHz Intel Core Duo.
   
   And, yes, sites load faster.

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1. Jeff Simpson

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   02/25, 01:29am | report spam | close reply

   One Problem

   I used to be able to save physics videos (MPGs) by using the pull-down menu in the bottom right of the video that was playing. I own QuickTime Pro. I can't do that any more in this version. Very perturbing.
   
   Good gosh, guest, get some therapy!

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1. ehoppe

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   02/25, 04:51am | report spam | close reply

   Huh?

   Borrowed from Chrome? Most of these features were pioneered in Opera first. Google borrowed from Opera, just as Apple has now.

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1. LouZer

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   02/25, 07:45am | report spam | close reply

   not worth it

   Until I get a PithHelmet update that works with it, any speed increase or 'enhancements' (really, s******* around with the UI standards is a 'good' thing? I guess we should start expecting every other app to start adding menus, buttons, toolbars, etc to the title bar of their windows - no complaints now, Apple said it was OK) is destroyed waiting for stupid ads and other 'page enhancements' to load.

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1. cwsmith

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   02/25, 08:42am | report spam | close reply

   re: guest

   Guest, I'd like to point a few things out that you might not have noticed, what with the anger impairing your vision and all.First, I log in with a user name. It identifies my opinions and instills them with an air of authenticity. You may not like my opinions. You may have a problem with my posts. But if you do, I you can report the problem to an administrator and I can be identified and reprimanded.You, on the other hand, do not identify yourself. You come in and spew your bile, like a vandal spray-painting expletives on the side of a building, or a prankster screaming "Fire!" in a movie theatre. We can't identify you, report you, or do anything about this other than mark your post with a "thumbs down." You're hiding behind your "guest" non-login. This, my friend, is called cowardice.Second, do you honestly think you're going to earn a lot of points by coming in and saying "FCK Apple" in a Mac-centric forum? The name is MacNN. Not PCNN, not MSNN, not LinuxNN. And clever little ploys to get around language filters don't make you look a whole lot brighter either.Third, calling my sexual preference into question is not only completely off-topic and patently false (my wife of 16 years will be happy to tell you I'm straight), I'm pretty certain it falls under the category of abusive language, which would violate this site's (and most sites') terms of service. But of course, you'd have to sign up for a login to have read that, wouldn't you?Moderators, I'd like to bring up the subject of the often-abused Guest login. Why is this allowed? For all the reasons I've listed here and more, most forum sites require a username to post comments. I think that's a good policy: it keeps out the trolls. Please consider disabling guest comments.

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1. Guest

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   02/25, 10:07am | report spam | close reply

   RE: Guest spewing venom

   While the irony of me posting as Guest to complain about a Guest's comments does not escape me, I'd like to ask the moderators to disable anonymous logins to get rid of that annoying troll. This is not a place for teen-aged comments, profanity and obvious hate-mongering.

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1. testudo

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   Re: Guest spewing

   You sure it's just not the same 'guest' on both sides of the argument, with his/her multiple personality disorder kicking in between posts?

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1. NDBounce

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   02/25, 10:41am | report spam | (1 reply) close | reply

   I second

   or third CWSmith's comments. Guest gets abused too often. Require login. It is not that difficult to sign up, its free, and if a person can not take the time to sign up and be accountable, maybe that person should not be permitted to post. Free speech does not mean no accountability, despite what many may think/wish.

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1. resuna

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   02/25, 05:58pm | report spam | close reply

   tabs in the wrong spot

   Tabs are in the wrong place. they belong around the content that the tab "owns". The tab doesn't "own" the bookmarks bar or the toolbar.

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1. Guest

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   02/26, 09:54pm | report spam | close reply

   yeah yeah...

   calm your horses, Apple rapes people in hardware, that's the bottom line.

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1. cwsmith

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   re: guest

   It's better to remain silent and let people think you're stupid than to speak and remove all doubt. (Mark Twain, paraphrased)