RIM chief chastises Apple on push, multitasking

updated 02:45 pm EDT, Wed April 15, 2009

RIM Chief Chastises Apple


Research in Motion's co-CEO Mike Lazaridis in an interview today shot down claims by Apple about push data and background apps on mobile devices. The executive argues to Laptop that RIM is more experienced at sending live updates through the 15 years of BlackBerries and that Apple's claims of severe battery life hits with background apps aren't well-founded. To Lazaridis, true background apps are feasible as long as the software is properly optimized.

"[They drain battery] if you don’t do it right," he says. "If you don’t make the right trade-offs, you have what we call a catastrophic effect on battery life... so all the optimizations and conservation techniques we have developed for the BlackBerry system over the years [are] now paying huge dividends to our subscribers and carrier partners. The fact is that the BlackBerry was designed to multitask from day one."

He explains by noting that BlackBerries don't need to poll frequently, such as with operating systems like Windows Mobile or Symbian. BlackBerry apps therefore spend more of their time idling and don't use as much power to keep updated as other mobile operating systems.

Lazaridis also partly defends RIM against criticisms of its own experience. While acknowledging that the web browser can improve, the official maintains that basing the BlackBerry OS web browser on Java has been useful as a security measure for business by allowing the device equal access to internal and external information.

The Storm's unique touchscreen and interface are subject to the same scrutiny, though the RIM head is more defensive here and infers that second-wave and beyond touchscreen BlackBerries will improve on the formula. "It’s unfair," Lazaridis says. "That’s our first touch product, and you know nobody gets it perfect out the door. You know other companies were having problems with their first releases."

Market pressure from Apple isn't considered a factor. Although Apple has sold 30 million iPhone OS devices in about 1.5 years on the market, the RIM chief notes that almost half of the 50 million BlackBerries shipped since the line began were shipped in 2008, indicating faster growth. Research data from Gartner has shown RIM nearly doubling its smartphone share from 2007 to 2008 even with the iPhone growing at a similar rate.

The success is mostly attributed to the company's reputation as a business smartphone developer. "When the economy is challenged, people flee to trusted brands," he states.

RIM has been one of the few electronics firms to actively defy the world economic downturn and, in its latest quarter, shipped a record 7.8 million BlackBerries where Apple and other companies have seen their unit shipments drop due either to regular seasonal shifts or reduced public spending.


By Electronista Staff

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  1. cmoney

    Mac Enthusiast

    Joined: Sep 2000

    +7

    wah

    "That’s our first touch product, and you know nobody gets it perfect out the door. You know other companies were having problems with their first releases."

    Right, Apple utterly FAILED with their first iPhone as far as touch goes.


  1. WiseWeasel

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    Joined: Apr 1999

    -7

    bkg

    My money is on Apple only allowing 3rd party background iPhone OS apps once they set up some kind of (probably relatively expensive) validation procedure for certifying apps to run in the background once they have proved to behave well when running as a background app.


  1. Peter Bonte

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    Joined: Aug 2001

    +5

    RIM

    2 that
    i'm sure that RIM can make background apps that won't drain the power to much, but not if they have 20.000 3P apps all pretending to be the one and only app that needs to run in the background. Every game, IM, Twitter frontend and mail app would abuse this feature and render the phone useless, 3rd party applications needs to be tempered.


  1. dliup

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    Joined: Jan 2006

    +6

    scared

    They are scared because they can't figure out how to make anything else work as well as the iPhone.iPhone found ready for enterprise, better than BlackBerry http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/04/13/iphonefoundreadyforenterprisebetterthan_blackberry.html


  1. macnixer

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    Joined: Mar 2006

    +4

    BB is not getting it

    Push notification is the future without much headach for a developer. Why do I have to bother about coding for polling and stuff when Apple provides me with notifications. All that my product needs is tell the user that a new mail / message or data has arrived for them and if they need it they can switch to my app. My app will be leaner too.

    Now BB did not think of this so they have to argue against it. Probably they will not be able to implement it either as Apple would have patented it too. Now we are talking money here.

    Given the ease of use of the iPhone most businesses are considering moving over to the iPhone. It is a lot easier to create secure apps for the iPhone than for BB.

    BB got the touch phone all wrong even after copying. Darn it their product sucks. I tried it once and it felt like I had to hammer in to get the apps to run.

    BB it is in the ecology now. The iPhone is not just a communication device. Can you do what I can with my iPhone?e


  1. Jeronimo2000

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    Joined: Aug 2001

    +6

    scared as h***

    Don't these people always sound like the same? It doesn't matter if it's the Nokia CEO, this RIM person or some other guy, all they're always saying is "Please don't buy the iPhone. PLEEEEASE."

    Of course background apps are "feasible". It doesn't mean they're "good" or "necessary". When one of the most critical issues is a product's battery life, you don't want anything that uses even more juice if you have a way around it, that ALSO allows you to somewhat control what could affect other aspects of the customer experience (speed etc.).


  1. carloblackmore

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    +9

    true masters

    Me thinks the CEO doth protest too much...True experts let their work do the talking for them.


  1. luckyday

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    -3

    macnixer

    I dont think you really believe a word of what you just said.

    There is no way push notification is better than an app operating in realtime in the background. If you actually believe such to be the case then I'm speechless.

    Push notifications are not the future. They are an interim solution that apple is relying on until their hardware can support multitasking.


  1. JohnFromBeyond

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    Joined: Sep 2007

    +3

    huh?

    "They are an interim solution that apple is relying on until their hardware can support multitasking. "

    Huh? Since when is this a hardware limitation since all the Apple apps already multitask, and a jailbroken iphone can multitask with 3rd party apps right now.

    It's clearly a software issue. Apple has chosen a route which protects consumers from rampant 3rd party apps. And believe me, if given the chance, 3rd party apps will be badly written and kill your battery life. Other companies have chosen to open the door wide open to developers. Just take a look at all the crappy Palm OS and Windows Mobile apps that crash all the time. Not as much of a problem for Blackberry, since there are so few apps for it : )


  1. luckyday

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    Joined: Apr 2008

    -4

    JohnFromBeyond

    Ya, that doesn't make sense.

    Other companies, i.e. RIM and PALM are supporting multitasking. I have a Bold and I multi task all the time. The battery life may take a hit when I do, but its not bad, and it undoubtedly outweighs not being able to multitask.

    The iphone on the other hand, according to apples own words, took such a battery hit when multitasking was enabled during testing (as well as on jail broken phones) that it decided for the time being not to include it, and to use push notifications as a interim solution.

    And this blackberry app garbage is c***. Yes, there are more apps for the iphone, but there are enough solid blackberry apps that the multitasking infrastructure can be tested and appreciated.

    Why don't you listen to apple's own explanation for not including multitasking before you attack me repeating it.


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