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1. dynsight

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   08/11, 08:25am | report spam | (1 reply) close | reply

   Much Better(er)

   I have the 17" with the matte display and it makes a world of difference. A coworker has the 15" with the glossy, and I found it distracting, particularly in fluorescent lights. However, most glossy users I have spoken to say they get used to it and are able to "focus past it"
   
   I still prefer my matte.

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1. snapper02

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   08/11, 08:42am | report spam | close reply

   Yes

   Finally, I guess if enough people complain then Apple will listen.

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1. jpellino

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   08/11, 08:50am | report spam | close reply

   c'mon, 13!!!

   Jeez - I sound like I'm at Foxwoods...
   

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1. Grrr

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   08/11, 09:20am | report spam | (1 reply) close | reply

   Oh no..

   Whatever will the complainers do!? They'll have to find something new to complain about instead now..
   

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1. JeffHarris

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   08/11, 10:05am | report spam | close reply

   Halleluiah!

   Sanity reigns!
   
   NOW I can upgrade!

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1. testudo

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   08/11, 10:31am | report spam | close reply

   Re: Oh no

   Yes, all those whiners complaining about a lack of matte screen. Wait! You mean if it weren't for all of them, we'd not have the option? Well then, should we cheer them or mock them?
   
   But, to answer your question, now they can concentrate on complaining about Apple's stupidly removing the ExpressCard slot from the 15" laptop, yet still calling it a 'pro' machine.

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1. jwdsail

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   08/11, 11:30am | report spam | close reply

   I feel.. dirty..

   I agree w/.... testudo... shivers
   
   Great that we have the matte option back, now if Apple fixes the lack of the ExpressCard slot ... I can understand the idea of adding a SD slot in the MacBook.. but adding it to the Pro, and removing the ExpressCard slot.... sigh. I think someone mis-read a memo or two...
   
   Seeing the return of the matte screen keeps hope alive for other issues to be fixed.

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1. Paul Huang

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   08/11, 11:38am | report spam | close reply

   not a separate panel

   There is no 'separate panel'.
   
   There is a screen already, so here's now it goes:
   
   The 'anti-glare' option is nothing more than a bare matte screen with an aluminum bezel.
   
   There is not a separate panel involved. There is no glass to protect the actual panel. The structure is also weaker than the glass-enclosed design, but I will take that any day over the glass junk.
   
   Why is it weaker? Without the glass to act as a cap, which completes the 'unibody' design, the screen is like a paper cup without the plastic lid.

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1. Raman

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   08/11, 01:15pm | report spam | (1 reply) close | reply

   Anti-Glare

   If you want the matte option there is a film that works great. One of the Apple stores I went to had these on all their cash register MacBrick Pro's and it looked great.
   
   Unfortunately, I'm one of those users who can just "look past" the glare or readjust if in sunlight. If I was doing it often then I'd get the film (which degrades the sharp picture a bit).
   
   I'm holding on to my Rev A 15" MacBrick Pro because of the ExpressCard slot. I can't believe they got rid of it. I could understand for the consumer-level MB's but not anything with "Pro" attached to the name.

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1. zaghahzag

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   08/11, 01:56pm | report spam | close reply

   it doesn't make sense

   What apple has done w/ their hardware. They need to put out a roadmap and stick to it for awhile in terms of add-ons for laptops.
   
   Why add the expresscard for just a few years? Why SD? Why ditch firewire for awhile? WTF? How about a doc that says "we'll keep firewire, fw800, USB etc until 2012."
   
   It would stop all this f****** craziness.

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1. zaghahzag

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   08/11, 01:56pm | report spam | (1 reply) close | reply

   it doesn't make sense

   What apple has done w/ their hardware. They need to put out a roadmap and stick to it for awhile in terms of add-ons for laptops.
   
   Why add the expresscard for just a few years? Why SD? Why ditch firewire for awhile? WTF? How about a doc that says "we'll keep firewire, fw800, USB etc until 2012."
   
   It would stop all this f****** craziness.

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1. Paul Huang

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   08/11, 02:34pm | report spam | close reply

   matte film does not work

   The matte film would give you a shadow show. The clearance between the film (after market) plane and the image plane (LCD) is too far, so the fuzzy image/shadow would bounce back to the LCD plane.

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1. testudo

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   08/11, 04:04pm | report spam | close reply

   Re: Making sense

   And I suppose no one else changes their mind based on what the Market demands?
   
   Yes, I recall the market demanding Apple remove the ExpressCard slot from the MacBook Pro 15". There were demonstrations, speeches, on-line appeals. All to remove that slot!
   
   There's changing one's mind and having no idea what one is planning. When Apple dropped firewire from the 13" Macbook, the biggest problem everyone had with it (besides that they dropped it) was that no one knew whether it was the beginning of the end or just it being dropped from one model or line-up.
   
   There are people with ExpressCard adaptors who may actually want to use them. Now, all of a sudden, there's only one choice of mac for them to upgrade to: the gigantic $2800 model. Some might think it's Apple's way to upsell the real 'pro' users to the more expensive models. Or will they be dropping it from the 17" in the next update? No one knows.
   
   And this then goes into new technologies. Do people really want to invest in displays with miniDisplayPorts without knowing Apple's commitment to the technology? Even when they announced the first computers with it, they never said "And our entire product line will be moving in this direction". Nope. Not Apple. Never say anything. Don't even mention when you discontinue a product. Just make it disappear as if it never existed (xRAID, for example). Keep the customer guessing.
   
   That's the way the mac fans apparently like it. Too bad the standard 'user' gets caught in the cross fire.

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1. macjockey

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   08/11, 07:21pm | report spam | close reply

   Listen to Steve

   When Steve Jobs speaks everyone jumps.
   
   "Let's make a round mouse" (aka hockey puck mouse)
   "Let's make a single port video port" (aka ADC)
   "Let;s make a really small computer" (aka G4 Cube) Ok that was cool
   "Let's make a keyboard with no numeric keypad"
   "Hey, my camera uses SD, why don't we replace the express slot with a SD card slot"