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1. siromega

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   11/08, 04:02pm | report spam | close reply

   Transition

   It really does seem like a setup to go from bagging on the iPhone on AT&T to talking about how much better the iPhone will be on Verizon. Its one of those cardinal advertising rules that you never compliment your competition and until the iPhone comes to Verizon it is the competition.

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1. iphonerulez

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   11/08, 04:48pm | report spam | (1 reply) close | reply

   Nothing new about using the word "toy"

   to describe all things Apple. Apple is known as the high-tech toy company and I wouldn't consider it as a compliment. There doesn't seem to be anything about Apple that is serious when pertaining to business or corporations. Apple's profile is somewhat sullied when it comes to building products that people use to do serious work with.
   
   With Verizon showing the iPhone without any signal bars is a fairly low blow. All apps and no reception. Who really cares? They're just silly ads and probably have little impact on phone sales.

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1. nitewing98

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   11/08, 05:06pm | report spam | (1 reply) close | reply

   Gotta Give 'Em Credit

   The ads ARE funny. What they don't say is that my iPhone (here in Kansas City) gets great reception, no dropped calls. I understand some coastal (read "big") cities don't have the same service that I get. If Apple goes with Verizon, more power to 'em. I've heard even Jimmy Fallon dog on the iPhone's reception, and he's a fan.

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1. howieengin

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   11/08, 05:16pm | report spam | close reply

   "toy" huh?

   Gee iphonerulez, is the"serious" business or corporation that you work for worth more than $175B? I think it's great that Apple is often dismissed as a high tech toy company- completely underestimated by it's competitors.. remember when Michael Dell said that the best thing Apple can do is give it's shareholders their money back? Now Apple can buy Dell for cash...
   
   The extraordinarily serious corporation that I work for is filled with Dell machines and hundreds of people that opt to use their "toys" at home instead.
   
   Perhaps Apple should not be chasing the "low cost, low content, one size fits all, minimal support plan cost" profile that big companies (150,000 plus employees) push for. Why be constrained by that box? If you can't use a Mac for "serious" work, maybe you don't know how to use a mac......

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1. slapppy

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   11/08, 06:20pm | report spam | (1 reply) close | reply

   Wow

   AT&T really sucks. The iPhone is doomed by the end of this year with these ads running.

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1. chirpy22

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   11/08, 07:01pm | report spam | close reply

   Come on...

   That Misfit Toys ad is AWESOME! :)

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1. chris2519

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   11/08, 07:26pm | report spam | close reply

   those ads are genius

   really, really funny. i'm on my 3rd iphone. and i hate at&t more than i can stand. they suck. and they deserve the criticism. at&t should be kissing apple's a**, because the iphone's exclusivity to at&t is the ONLY thing that keeps thousands of us with their embarrassingly substandard service.

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1. thedude

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   11/08, 07:40pm | report spam | close reply

   OK they are funny but....

   Don't forget just because verizon has better coverage doesn't mean that they are some how better over all. I have though about going with them because I live in a spotty ATT coverage area, however verzion likes to do things like make it impossible for your phone to sync with your computer. Or use bluetooth to transfer files. Or let you create ring tones without downloading them through there data network. Now if they have somehow changed all this, then maybe they have a shot at getting a larger slice of the smartphone pie, but as for me I don't think I will be switching... even though the Droid does look pretty sweet. And in someways is much better than the latest iPhone.
   
   
   thedude

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1. makemineamac

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   11/08, 08:18pm | report spam | (1 reply) close | reply

   Use desperation much?

   These guys - Verizon, are all about what they don't have, aren't they? So much so they have to potentially jeopardize their future with Apple to diss on AT&T. Nice.
   
   And that's not competition really, it's just cheesy.
   
   To thedudes point, Verizon is famous for not allowing a phone on their network to do everything it's supposed to do out of the box without monetizing the feature. That may be one of the reasons they didn't get the iPhone initially. And AT&T was guilty of this in the past as well, but decided to take the risk.
   
   

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1. JuanGuapo

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   11/08, 08:18pm | report spam | (1 reply) close | reply

   Still...

   No-one cares how much national coverage you have--it's how much coverage you have in 'my' city that I care about.

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1. Fast iBook

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   11/08, 08:46pm | report spam | (1 reply) close | reply

   So many issues with this.... :-

   Firstly, the iPhone isn't a toy. It is a tool. I use it to find out ways around traffic, the next subway train & transit routes to get places. I use it to pay bills and do my banking. I use it to hep people find things & directions. I have amber alert and other such apps, keeping me up to date on important things. It allows me to be on time for things, and the few games and non utility apps that i have keep me sane on packed trains where i have to stand for 18+ minutes trying to keep my balance with people stepping on my feet & their bags jabbing into my side.
   
   Secondly, i NEVER have reception interruption above background stuff such as tunnels (subway), even going 100 mph on a train with 600 other people using 3G. Only reception issues i ever hear about is on sprint & vz. My iPhone at 2+ bars does not drop calls. 1 bar means it could drop to nothing if environmental stuff comes into play.
   
   Also, i need to, (though i shouldn't have to) come to att mobiliy's defense. They have been nothing but the -best- as far as customer service. They helped me with so much it's not even funny. I stay with att because of what they have done for me since i got my first phone, combined with excellent coverage, and roll over minutes. Those are the big 3 reasons i'm with att, the iPhone is just an amazing extra that i happen to be able to afford.
   
   - A

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1. Roehlstation

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   11/08, 09:31pm | report spam | close reply

   Appleis big now

   For years Apple was not the target, no one considered them a threat, so rather than come up with an easy witty retort, I'll just say. "Bring it on!"

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1. lolcat789

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   11/08, 11:56pm | report spam | close reply

   Everybody says they don't care

   But everybody getting all huffy is exactly what those marketing gurus at Verizon want.

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1. marryprice

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   11/09, 12:14am | report spam | close reply

   Colopure

   Its one of those cardinal advertising rules that you never compliment your competition and until the iPhone comes to Verizon it is the competition.
   
   http://www.goarticles.com/cgi-bin/showa.cgi?C=2159637

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1. SaudiMac

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   11/09, 02:37am | report spam | close reply

   comment title

   rest of the world stares at Verizon ... CDM-what? do I need a SIM card?

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1. Fast iBook

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   11/09, 07:41am | report spam | close reply

   Can someone...

   Can someone fix the comment view setting, the "show more comments" link isn't a real link...
   
   - A

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1. c4rlob

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   11/09, 08:48am | report spam | close reply

   I've never once been without coverage

   I travel consistently between Philadelphia, Chicago, and New York, and never once have I been without coverage and never once has a friend with Verizon had better/faster coverage than me. So Verizon may have a lot more coverage than AT&T, but why would would I pay for a netwrok that I don't even use?

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1. Raman

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   11/09, 09:13am | report spam | (2 replies) close | reply

   Verizon is getting the iPhone

   NOT!
   
   It's funny that top VZ execs are still quoted about the iPhone as something they would like to have on their own network but apparently don't realize that the more they mock A&T (and the iPhones in VZ's commercials) the more they mock the iPhone, potentially decrease iPhone sales (albeit on AT&T), and increase the likelihood of Steve giving VZ the finger...again.

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1. tcphoto

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   11/09, 09:16am | report spam | close reply

   Hey, I just bought one of those...

   and could not be happier. After spending an eternity (23 months) with Verizon, I am back with AT&T. The coverage in Atlanta is great and if 3G is not available I can connect with wifi to browse the web. I do not care about the coverage in Peoria or Bakersfield, so the map is just something to make them feel better about themselves. Ever try to use the software on a Verizon phone? There is no fix for that...

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1. itguy05

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   11/09, 10:34am | report spam | close reply

   AT&T rocks for me

   No issues here on the east coast. It works well and seems to be getting better.
   
   F- Verizon - their NOTwork is the CRAPwork.

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1. dliup

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   11/09, 10:38am | report spam | (1 reply) close | reply

   Verizon FAIL

   Verizon obviously didn't realize iPhone is rated the BEST consumer and business phone in 2009 (and in 2008) by J.D. Powers.

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1. Climb AZ

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   11/09, 12:13pm | report spam | close reply

   begun these phone wars have

   your comment

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1. byRyan

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   11/09, 12:39pm | report spam | close reply

   big deal

   you know, these adds make it look like your phone won't work at all without 3g... Big deal if my phone doesn't perform at high speeds while I am on vacation. It still has edge, which is all the original iPhone had, and some how people survived.
   
   My friend just got a verizon LG touch, and all she does is complain about how hard it is to use, and how un-friendly it is. I used it once, and it just does not compare to the touch experience of an iPhone.
   
   I would be PISSED if I came home and fond out my daughter had replaced my iPhone with whatever c*** verizon is peddling now

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1. Glenstorm

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   11/09, 02:33pm | report spam | close reply

   There's a fee for that.

   I waiting for a You Tube parody of verizon's ad's. . .
   
   I am not sure what verizon's nickel and diming it's customers for these days but it go something like this:
   
   
   Want to sync your calendar's? there's a fee for that. . .
   
   Want to use the bluetooth on your phone? There's a fee for that. . .
   
   Want to listen the CD's you already own? There's a fee for that. . .
   
   

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1. nativeNYer

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   11/10, 10:09am | report spam | close reply

   ads

   While I get the complaints from AT&T about the legitimacy of the claims in the ads, you have to admit they are pretty good ads. Made me lol actually on at least one of them. I still wouldn't get a Droid or HTC, but I have to give credit to VZW for the creative and catchy ads.
   
   That aside, I agree with others here that VZW has a long history of utterly crippling any phones they carry on their network, in order to squeeze every penny they can out of their customers. At least AT&T isn't AS guilty in this area since taking on the iPhone. Maybe Verizon has seen the light and is changing their ways? Remains to be seen I think.

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1. yongdev

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   11/11, 03:40am | report spam | close reply

   This is Verizon sticking a foot in their mouth!!

   Hello people....this is Verizon sticking a foot in their mouth!! what 'genius' advertising fool didn't think this one through? Most will perceive this as iphone/AT&T being the better product "winner" overall because we all know that the MISFIT TOYS are the one's all the kids really wanted when they watched the movie because they are not the same as every other toy!! They are unique, different...the toys had heart, emotion and that's why we rooted for them and for Santa to pick them up and send them to all the good deserving boys and girls...we really wanted a misfit toy, DUH
   
   also thank goodness they stopped running that same Verizon ad over and over and over since last year showing that V geek trying to demonstrate 'hey we got apps too, look it's a BOFA app to do your banking'...uh oK that's it...I laughed every time I saw that weak commercial trying to show you that 1 Bank of America app and then loving the Apple Iphone commercials showing the thousand of useful apps they offer..NEWS FLASH! THERE IS NO COMPETITION FOR Iphone, Apple doesn't even need to bother and respond to those weak Verizon commercial attacks because they ARE NOT THREATENED!! keep doing your thing Apple while those jealous HATERS keep trying... HA
   
   p.s. my AT&T service is superb.