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Samsung NX10 spotted, lacks SLR mirror [U]

updated 06:35 pm EST, Mon December 21, 2009

1st Samsung swappable lens cam not an SLR

(Update with Samsung confirmation and stance) Samsung's first camera with removable lenses has been seen in supposedly production-ready trim thanks to a forum leak late Sunday. It should now be called the NX10 in its final guise and is now known for certain to be closer to point-and-shoot cameras as it lacks the mirror system that would be needed for an SLR. It's thought the camera is using a Samsung-developed system rather than using another mirrorless system like Micro Four Thirds.

The camera spotted at DPReview's community is also skewed somewhat towards relative beginners in photography with a full-auto scene mode as well as presets for landscape and nighttime shots, though it still has full manual controls as well as aperture and shutter priority options on the mode dial. A hot shoe for an external flash reinforces the semi-pro ambitions of the the NX10.

It's still not certain when the often-delayed camera will appear, but if virtually complete it could be unveiled by Samsung at CES next month and launch sometime afterwards.

Update: Samsung tells Electronista that the NX10 exists, but that none of the details are official and that it will only provide full details with a formal launch of the camera in the future. [via Photography Bay]



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  1. bobolicious

    Dedicated MacNNer

    Joined: Aug 2002

    0

    Doh...

    ...I am glad a manufacturer finally realized that the SLR with mechanical mirror system may be an inefficient & relatively pointless legacy from the days when optics were the only game in town.

    Perhaps now photographers will get a 100% accurate viewscreen @ 100% brightness besting the Oly OM-1 from the 'early days'.

    I still keep hoping this industry will adopt a more forward looking & universal lens view angle instead of focal length conversions that merely obfuscate in a realm of 4/3, 2/3 & who knows what other derivatives of the sacred 35mm day format.

    This technology has huge potential when the industry decides we can 'handle' innovation & optimization - or perhaps when the suits driving the product design decision making gain a greater understanding of image making...?

  1. bjojade

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    Joined: Jun 2007

    +4

    It's going to be a while.

    If you think you can get anywhere near as accurate of focus on your viewfinder screen as you can looking through the lens, you're sadly mistaken. Using the moving mirror is the best way to accomplish that task as you are viewing the same image as the sensor sees. I doubt there are any displays on the market that would even come CLOSE to the accuracy needed to provide the same level of detail that direct optics provide.

  1. cmoney

    Mac Enthusiast

    Joined: Sep 2000

    +2

    Live view problems

    While it's getting better as evidenced with Micro 4/3rds, there are still problems with a live view-only camera. For one, once you start shooting continuous shots on these cameras, there's actually no viewfinder at all! They show you what you just shot instead of what you're about to shoot. This is because of the mechanical shutter and the dual purpose of the sensor being used for both capture and live view.

    Also live view cameras are pretty bad in low light situations where they pump up the gain on the LCD and you end up with lots of grain and a black picture. These are in situations where I could see just enough in an SLR to frame a shot.

    The reliance on slower contrast detect autofocus is a big downfall for the time being. It's getting better and Panasonic has done a great job at this but it's still slower than the SLRs.

    Apart from size issues, I don't see why people are so against the mirrors in SLRs! Once you move the mirror out of the way, it's the exact same situation as these live view, interchangeable lens cameras.

    This is from a person with both M4/3rds and an SLR. Use whatever tool is right for the situation. SLRs aren't going anywhere for a while.

  1. Mr. Strat

    Forum Regular

    Joined: Jan 2002

    +2

    Pussies

    I'm glad I got out of the photography biz almost 15 years ago. Everybody with a digital camera is a professional, and the noobs are whining about mirrors flipping up and down.

    Learn how to create a decent image instead of bitching about a little mirror.

  1. testudo

    Forum Regular

    Joined: Aug 2001

    -1

    Re: Pussies

    Bah, who needs to learn how to create a decent image when you can just photoshop it into a decent image.

  1. JeffHarris

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    Joined: Oct 1999

    +1

    Live View vs. Carryable

    While I agree about the Live View focus issues, my problem with current DSLRs is the sheer SIZE of the things! With the current state of electronics, why can't Nikon or Canon come out with a simple, SMALL DSLR?

    I was looking at cameras the other day... Nikon D300s or D700? I picked them up and couldn't help laughing. They're like friggin' Hummers... and I used to complain about my old Nikon FM2!!! In fact, the FM2 isn't much bigger than a Panasonic GF1 Micro4/3, which is the camera I've got my eye on.

    I travel fairly often and to places where a large, shiny camera screams dollars and can be a magnet for trouble. I won't even mention hiking, climbing or mountain biking with one. The m4/3 seems a reasonable compromise. As for the Samsung, it would've made more sense for them to sign on with the m4/3, since it would make it compatible with ALL m4/3 lenses.

  1. bjojade

    Fresh-Faced Recruit

    Joined: Jun 2007

    +1

    Size

    You're right, there are different size cameras for different needs. There's no ONE camera that's perfect for everything. This camera will be what some people want. Others need the bells and whistles of the big hefty cameras.

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