Acer vet: US PC builders gone in 20 years

updated 09:50 am EST, Tue January 19, 2010

Acer pioneer says US can't do low price PC


Acer's creator and former chief Stan Shih told Taiwan's Commercial Times on Tuesday that he doesn't expect US PC makers to survive the next 20 years. He believes the tendency towards budget PCs will continue on for "coming years" and that US companies don't have a fundamental grasp of how the market works. Lower-cost southeast Asian brands like Acer have an inherent edge as a result.

"US computer makers just don't know how to put such products on the market," Shih said, comparing American PC builders to their gutted TV brands like Zenith, which was bought out by LG in 1999.

The comments are supported by Acer's most recent results, which on the world stage put it above Dell in fall 2009 PC shipments. Observers say the company could potentially surpass HP as the top-selling label as early as this year, though this depends on sustained demand for netbooks and Acer's overall line.

Doubts are cast on Shih's views by the performance of some US brands. Although HP growth is slowing and Dell has been on the decline, Apple continues to grow despite having an average selling price almost three times higher than its competitors. Apple has had to respond to the market with more economic systems but for more than a year has effectively controlled US retail notebook sales above $1,000, hinting that it's continuing to grow with its high-end strategy.


By Electronista Staff

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  1. cmoney

    Mac Enthusiast

    Joined: Sep 2000

    +8

    20 years?

    In 20 years I don't see PC makers surviving as they are at all. 20 years from now will we even be using budget PCs at all? Or will smart phones, tablets and such have taken over the lion's share of computing?


  1. Paul Huang

    Dedicated MacNNer

    Joined: Sep 1999

    +10

    Name ONE PC builder in the US

    Dell buys nearly everything from Asia.
    HP buys just about everything from Asia.

    Does anyone build anything in the US?


  1. WalterC

    Fresh-Faced Recruit

    Joined: Jul 2008

    +1

    Tariff Time

    Although there would be a period of deep suffering and whining due to 'i-Device' & cellular withdrawal, inn the long-run we'll be much better off re-instituting tariffs to save our economy (re-build our capacity to actually make things).

    Sure there'll be screams from China, but hey, they have major tariff's on the few things they import from the US.


  1. Oneota

    Professional Poster

    Joined: May 2000

    +3

    Acer=cheap computer, lousy support

    Yes, you get cheap computers from Acer. And they fail regularly. And their support SUCKS. But, if you've got no problem buying a cheap POS that will eat your data when it inevitably dies (because no one uses Windows's built-in backup mechanism), then by all means, go ahead. Don't expect anyone on the phone to care about you when it happens, though.


  1. JulesLt

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    Joined: Jul 2005

    +1

    Tariff Time Pt.2

    It's reaching a point where serious economists who are normally against protectionism consider that it may be a valid response - because China refuses to allow it's currency to float - basically, by now, the Yen should have risen against the dollar, making them less competitive, and making imported good cheaper to Chinese citizen - but the Chinese are deliberately pegging their currency - i.e. they are not playing by market rules.

    However, Taiwan is a different country (although the Chinese leadership don't accept that). And while Acer may be able to undercut the likes of Dell at the manufacturing game - where you assemble a system from third party components - whether those are CPU or operating systems - the question is to whether that is the right strategy - for years, people have presumed it was (Windows vs Apple), ignoring, say, the games console market (Nintendo beat 'open' MSX).

    I'd agree with one thing though - Dell became pointless the moment they stopped assembling their own machines and started subcontracting them. As soon as your business is just about adding 'brand value' but also about being a budget brand, you are in a difficult position.


  1. Geoduck

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    Joined: Jan 2010

    +6

    different markets

    From the article "Although HP growth is slowing and Dell has been on the decline, Apple continues to grow "

    This is because Apple does not try to compete in the bottom feeding low end. I think more accurately in 20 years the US companies that try to make CHEAP PCs will be gone. There is always a market for high quality products. I expect in 20 years that HP and possibly Dell will be making high end and server systems.

    As far as Acer having lousy quality, yes but that's what the market is demanding. If you get a product cheap enough it is more economical to replace it every year than to pay more and keep it for a few. When's the last time someone got their microwave oven or Wallmart special DVD player repaired. The disposable junk PC market is where Acer lives.


  1. bobthenob

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    Joined: Jul 2004

    +6

    in other news

    guy who has stake in X says that X will soon be the only one to buy from.


  1. TRRosen

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    Joined: May 2002

    +3

    Try 10

    Dell and HP wont make it ten. All the companies that make the PCs for them are making there own. Why pay extra when you can get it cheaper from the source.

    And its not Acer that will kill them its ASUS. ASUS is actually building very high quality machines.

    Dell brought this upon the industry by commoditizing the PC.

    In the end Apple will be the last US PC company because it still designs its own unique systems rather than throwing a mobo in a box.


  1. TheSnarkmeister

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    Joined: Jun 2007

    +2

    Let's hope he's not wrong

    Manufacturing is a labor intensive process that requires cheap labor markets. That usually translates to low minimum wages, few worker protections, a desperate working class, an absent middle class, and a debased national currency. Is this the really the future we want for America? Is that worth the price of keeping computer manufacturing in America? Of course, given Bernanke's and Paulson's, and now Geithner's war on America's middle class, unless we end the Fed and radically restructure our monetary system, we may have more cheap labor than we can employee because America may soon be amongst the ranks of the nations where the average person lives hand-to-mouth.


  1. LeoNobilis

    Fresh-Faced Recruit

    Joined: Nov 2007

    -6

    What else do you expect!

    Give a Chinese an inch, he'll take an ell. Cursed animal abusers!


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