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Apple sampling USB 3.0 controllers?

updated 07:35 am EST, Wed February 3, 2010

Apple may adopt 5Gbps USB standard early

Apple could be one of the early computer builders to adopt USB 3.0 if a leak proves true. Those within the Taiwan electronics business claim Genesys Logic is providing test samples of USB 3.0 controllers to Apple. Publicly, Genesys has denied the talk, though DigiTimes notes that it's not uncommon for Apple to depend on many local Taiwan suppliers for its parts.

To prove its point, the publication goes so far as to name some of the component firms for the iPad. Notably, it says Broadcom not only won deals to provide the Bluetooth and Wi-Fi hardware but to make the chip that controls multi-touch input. As with the iPhone, Infineon once again is said to have provided the 3G and RF chips. Smaller part suppliers include Novatek for the LCD driver and both Linear as well as NXP for power management controllers.

Separately, another report claims Radiant Opto-Electronics shipped about 300,000 LED backlights for the iPad last month.

USB 3.0 is a significant upgrade to the external peripheral standard that increases the speed by more than 10 times, to 5Gbps, and will allow SSDs or other devices to run at full speed where USB 2.0 often bottlenecks their performance. Apple has often been considered one of the champions of USB, helping to popularize it with the iMac in 1998.



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  1. JeffHarris

    Fresh-Faced Recruit

    Joined: Oct 1999

    +5

    USB3, SchmUSB 3...

    Where's FireWire 3200?

  1. JeffHarris

    Fresh-Faced Recruit

    Joined: Oct 1999

    +7

    Actually...

    What about LightPeak?

  1. danviento

    Fresh-Faced Recruit

    Joined: Dec 2005

    +2

    Better Question

    I don't know much about the USB 3.0 spec, but USB 2.0 had the same problems as USB ones in terms of slower real data transfer rates and dropped packets.

    That's why I'm still wanting to know: *Where the h*** is news on FW3200?!*

  1. jwdsail

    Fresh-Faced Recruit

    Joined: Jun 2000

    +3

    USB? Meh..

    http://www.apple.com/feedback/ Tell Apple we want LightPeak and faster FireWire!

    Faster FireWire (3200) and LightPeak (plus a ready supply of LightPeak to X adaptors) PLEASE!

    Am I the only one that *hates* USB? Am I the only one that doesn't care if Intel promises that USB3 with be 50 times faster and make me more attractive to the ladies??

    USB was never intended to be a data transfer bus.. it was designed to be a peripheral bus (for low bandwidth printers, scanners, KB and Mice, etc)

    Not sure what tech I hate more.. Flash or USB..

    May they both die quick (yet painful) deaths!

  1. jwdsail

    Fresh-Faced Recruit

    Joined: Jun 2000

    +5

    Actually...

    Just give me back my ExpressCard slot on the 15" MBP and I won't care..

  1. Raman

    Mac Elite

    Joined: Mar 2001

    +5

    Freaking Port

    DEAR USB GODS,

    A. Can they once and for all make it so you don't have to flip the end of the back and forth 5 times to finally figure out which orientation the end will finally go in?

    My usual scenario:

    1. Take USB plug end and feel around for the usb port on the back of iMac.
    2. "It isn't going in.... I must have it the wrong way." (Flip it over and try again.)
    3. "Hmm. It still doesn't fit. Let me wiggle it - maybe I'm not going in at exactly 90 degrees to the port." (tries it again).
    4. "Maybe I wasn't going in at 90 degrees to the port AND it was the wrong way.. Let me try it again." (tries it again).
    5. "Dammit! Am I trying to shove it into the wrong port?! I thought I had 1 USB port open." (Feels around with finger.) "Definitely feels like a USB port." (Looks at the usb wire to make sure he didn't crush the plastic/ceramic thing or bend some pins).
    6. Repeat 1-5. Cringes as he is scratching around the usb ports of his precious iMac.
    7. Finally swings the iMac around and visually inserts the USB cable.

    (This is 100x worse on a home-built PC tower.)

    B. Does the ends of the USB plugs on computers have to be so goddamed big? Why can't EVERY device have a female miniUSB port and ALL USB cables have mini male ends? (or the other way around, I don't care). I've got a plethora of useless USB cables in my drawer when in reality I would just need *1* extra cable in case something goes wrong with an existing cable.

  1. maae

    Fresh-Faced Recruit

    Joined: Aug 2006

    -1

    Beyond bias

    Well, if the advertised speed vs actual speed ratio is the same for 3.0 as it is for 2.0, USB 3.0 will be faster than FireWire 3200.

    USB was c*** in the past, but it may not be in the future.

  1. testudo

    Forum Regular

    Joined: Aug 2001

    +1

    Get over it

    Firewire 3200 will never see the light of day on a Mac. Apple just has no desire to add it (h***, they wanted to drop all firewire but apparently felt enough backlash to at least put it back in on the low-end).

    USB is universal on all computers. Firewire might be better, but it lost to USB (just like Beta losing to VHS).

    And I wouldn't be hoping for LightPeak any time soon (nor would I be expecting it anytime soon). It takes a while to go from "We've got a spec" to "we've released it to hardware makers" to "we've got hardware!"

    h***, even USB 3.0, well over a year since the spec was released, is barely moving out into the public.

  1. Fast iBook

    Fresh-Faced Recruit

    Joined: Mar 2003

    +2

    FW3200...

    This rendition of the aptly named firewire is extremely bulky in implementation, as soon as chipset is created to get the spec feasible, it will be done. People who i know that make FW devices say that if 3200 9s ever released it will operate near 99% throughput with that around 1% overhead, allow iPods etc to move off of USB, other makers would do this as well, or do both. FW never really caught on outside of the mac circle, but if it is implemented in a custom chipset that doesn't make the controller bus go fracky with the newer stuff apple is using it will be released, if not in a product, at least in a optional card. I think the number of pins needed also hampers development as it would not really work within the form factors of any of the macbook offerings. You would need an adapter ala 400-800 to allow it to fit in. I am guessing it might resemble a mini-dvi, but who really knows i guess we just have to wait and see.

    As for 3.0 i bet apple outs it first along its entire product line. It was after all first to make it standard on its products a decade ago.

    - A

  1. testudo

    Forum Regular

    Joined: Aug 2001

    -1

    Re: FW3200

    People who i know that make FW devices say that if 3200 9s ever released it will operate near 99% throughput with that around 1% overhead,

    That's a big if!

    allow iPods etc to move off of USB, other makers would do this as well, or do both.

    Apple will NOT move iPods off of USB. Firewire 3200 will never make it onto PCs in any number. And Apple kicked off firewire years ago from the iPod, and that had nothing to do with it being slower. It was a cost thing.

    Firewire 3200 is going to remain a niche product for those high-end areas that need it. It won't make it to the consumer market. There's just no demand, and it is way too late. eSATA and USB make up the drive market, and there's no benefit to upgrade.

    As for 3.0 i bet apple outs it first along its entire product line. It was after all first to make it standard on its products a decade ago.

    What does 'make it standard' mean? They weren't close to the first to include it (I had digital machines from 96 that had USB ports). They also took a long time to include it on all their models (and even then you're just talking a dozen or so models, it wasn't like they needed to switch over a large computer base). But they were the first to make a big deal over it.

    And we all know that if Apple didn't include it on the iMac, USB would be a niche product, right?

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