Adobe implicated in, denies blocking HTML5

updated 06:30 pm EST, Mon February 15, 2010

Adobe accused of stalling HTML5 to aid Flash


Adobe over multiple days has been accused of and has denied deliberately blocking the W3C standards group's attempts to greenlight HTML5. After the software developer allegedly froze development by filing a formal but secret objection to the web standard, Adobe's Larry Masinter has denied the attempt pinned on himself and gone so far as to absolve the company from any deliberate plans to sabotage HTML5 in order to keep Flash relevant.

"Neither Adobe nor I oppose, are fighting, are trying to stop, slow down, hinder, oppose, or harm HTML5, Canvas 2D Graphics, Microdata, video in HTML, or any of the other significant features in HTML5," Masinter said. "Claims otherwise are false. Any other disclaimers needed?"

He elaborated by noting that his objections have so far only been to reorganize subgroups for more efficient development. Making the request was interpreted as an objection when it was simply intended as a procedural move, he said. He claimed no direct influence by any higher-level Adobe staffers on his work.

Standards writer Ian Hickson, who first brought the alleged obstruction to light, remained skeptical on Monday and suggested there should be no issue with moving ahead. "Since I was mistaken about the formal objection, should I prepare the drafts for FPWD publication now?" he said.

Suspicions about Adobe's motives have flared up ever since the launch of the iPad, when a demo by Apple's Steve Jobs clearly showed Flash missing. The Flash creator has attacked the iPad for missing much of the video web, but Jobs is believed to have blamed Flash for most problems on the web as its demanding performance and instability were deemed unacceptable for an iPhone- or iPad-native Safari plugin. He and a growing number of supporters have instead maintained that HTML5 is the future as it bypasses plugins entirely and generates a considerably lighter workload for a phone or tablet.


By Electronista Staff

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  1. jpellino

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    Well...

    The specific accusations aside, Adobe is making some attempt to create their own ecosystem if not dreaming of an OS. Online apps, AIR, online PDF, Photoshop, Flash as a multimedia platform (shudder) ... Frankly, based on their stumbles with such things as Intel apps, Digital Editions, and an interminably long Flash fix Beta, I doubt they can pull it off. They're no Google - they seem to be more of a "Ready - Fire - Aim" outfit. But who knows.


  1. PRoth

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    Adobe's work lately

    I can't help but feel that Adobe's work lately seems like they're overreaching... fumbling towards some sweeping corporate end-goal while neglecting current products and technologies. That just emboldens alternative solutions...


  1. coffeetime

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    Adobe powerhouse

    Now that they are the multimedia powerhouse, we will hear more whining coming from them. Unlike the old time when Macromedia was still exist, Adobe was more "hard at work".


  1. iphonerulez

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    I hope the the major cellphone companies

    all band together and pull Adobe's and Flash's pants down around its ankles. Push that darn Flash aside and go for HTML5. Adobe is really just standing in the way of progress. Who needs a plug-in to look at ads, anyway. I'm just in favor of using some technology that isn't a resource hog. Mobile devices need all help they can get to conserve battery life and eliminate crashes.


  1. lahaina

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    Monstrous, ancient code base

    I think they are hamstrung by a code base in most of their major applications that is approaching 20 years old in some cases. Over the years they just seem to have bolted on features willy nilly and ended up with insecure resource hogs like Flash and overstuffed bloatware like Photoshop. InDesign stands out as the only winning application and unfortunately it is focused on design for print, a segment that is in freefall. They act like a company that is heavily siloed, apparently with internal politics that handcuff anyone that wants to get something done. All too familiar in American business.


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  1. coffeetime

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    Flash CS5 is equipped for iPhone

    Adobe's upcoming Flash CS5 can be exported as iPhone App! Smart move, Adobe, for keep Flash alive. And hello MaCNN? Have you Googled your latest news on CS5 lately? Guess not.


  1. dliup

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    @coffeetime

    The problem is, Flash CS5 doesn't export flash for iPhone.


  1. revco

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    comment title

    "...any other disclaimers needed?"

    Typically smug.


  1. Drunken Economist

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    Typical Adobe arrogance

    "Any more comment needed", hah.

    Bearing in mind that most of the Adobe folks that are 'commenting' are ex-Macromedia, this arrogance is par for the course.

    Remember when Adobe was a 'shut up and release, SHOW the results' type company? The way Apple is now? Adobe only has apologies and subterfuge, when RESULTS matter. Who cares what they SAY? What matters is what they DO and the END RESULT.

    Adobe laid off the wrong 9%, and left the non-technical jack-holes, now they are trying to delay or foul up the inevitable using the only thing available to them: politics.


  1. Tanker10a

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    Surprise! Surprise!

    Why on earth doesn't this surprise me about Adobe? Really?


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