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More leaks: Apple "changed its mind" on CDMA

updated 10:30 am EDT, Tue March 30, 2010

CDMA iPhone due to slow move to 4G

More details have emerged of Apple's plans for a Verizon-ready iPhone. Some of the sources behind the previous story have since claimed that Apple has backtracked on its proclamation that CDMA was dead. The company "changed its mind" when it realized Verizon's move to 4G wouldn't be as quick as hoped, the insiders said.

Verizon has long said it would have a 4G network based on the LTE standard by this year, but it has pushed back the rollout from its initial first-half target and has also warned that actual phone service won't be ready at all in 2010. Until early 2011, all devices will be data-only hardware like modems and routers, both because of the power-thirsty nature of early LTE chipsets but also because Voice over LTE (VoLTE) is still in testing.

The first LTE phone, the Samsung r900, will only use 4G for data and could prevent an iPhone with the same chipset from transitioning over to 4G calls without firmware upgrades.

Even without Verizon, Apple would have several existing incentives to add a CDMA handset. As many of its existing markets already have multiple GSM carriers and are at least partly saturated, CDMA would let it expand in areas where the most significant alternatives use the alternate cellular technology. Besides Sprint, Verizon and smaller regional carriers in the US, the iPhone could also reach China Telecom, KDDI in Japan and other usually minority providers throughout the world.



By Electronista Staff
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  1. Wingsy

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    Just One Word

    Bullshit.

  1. aristotles

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    You people don't get. It's not just about USA anym

    Apple has already chosen a direction for the worldwide market and that direction is GSM. LTE is at least 5 years away.

    Stop wishing and hoping and use your collective power as consumers to lead the carriers to where you want to go. You need to remind your carriers who their boss is. *Hint* It is the buying public at large.

    Pressure Verizon and Sprint to stop with the empty promises/stall tactics and compete directly with AT&T within a year, not 5 years down the road. Tell them that enough is enough and that you are sick and tired living in a country that is a technological island within a sea of interoperability and competition.

    If Telus and Bell could launch an HSPA+ (21Megabits per second) data with UMTS voice network within a year and half of the launch of the IPhone 3G, then Verizon and Sprint should be able to do the same if not faster. Launching that network was no small feat. They managed to launch in almost every province (except Manitoba and Saskatchewan) with a network that was actually larger than the incumbent network's HSPA (7.2Mbps) coverage let alone their HSPA+ network.

    AT&T is supposedly starting to roll out HSPA+ in some markets but if you really want actual direct competition, kick your CDMA carriers directly in their fat greedy lard arses and tell them to either compete or you will lobby congress to force them to do it.

    I'm on the incumbent network in Canada (Fido) but I'm glad to see more competition and I've already seen lower prices for some things since Bell and Telus launch their new network in November 2009. Canadians have a choice of networks if they want an iPhone while Americans do not because consumers in the states believe the lies that the carriers tell them instead of reminding the carriers of who is really in charge.

  1. appleuzr

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    comment title

    yes!

  1. coffeetime

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    the differences

    It's easier for other nations to switch over to the latest tech services. But for U.S., it's a very expensive move due to 50+ states (50 nations) to convert. This is why CDMA is here to stay because it's already established all over the states since the stone age.

  1. testudo

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    Wow...

    Sounds like I've heard someone say this over and over again on these boards...

  1. gambit-7

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    Apple would do this

    And they should. The reason is simple: Android is eating Apple's lunch. Not in terms of user experience or hardware, even, but the fact that there are Android devices out there now make the iPhone less "gotta have it" for anyone else on a carrier that is not AT&T. It's not the same, but for many, it's good enough.

  1. testudo

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    and so....

    If Apple does come out with a CDMA phone, does that mean all the "CDMA is DEAD!" people will suddenly change their tune and talk up the advantages of buying a CDMA phone, or how the choice of either is a good thing?

  1. testudo

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    @aristotles

    You people don't get. It's not just about USA anym
    Apple has already chosen a direction for the worldwide market and that direction is GSM. LTE is at least 5 years away.
    ?

    Um, since when was it Apple who gets to choose the direction the world follows?

    AT&T is supposedly starting to roll out HSPA+ in some markets but if you really want actual direct competition, kick your CDMA carriers directly in their fat greedy lard arses and tell them to either compete or you will lobby congress to force them to do it.

    And why is it that the CDMA carriers are the ones who are 'greedy'? Isn't ATT also greedy, and shouldn't they be rolling out their networks sooner.

    And what is your solution? Force Verizon and the rest to spend billions changing to HSPA+, then spend billions to switch to LTE (which Verizon says they will start this year)? Hey, it must be nice to play with other people's money.

    Maybe what we should do is get Apple (the champion of the consumer) to give some of their extra cash to all these other carriers to pay for the switchover. Thus the iPhone would be available on all networks, and happy consumers are iPhone users. Everyone wins!

  1. anthology123

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    CDMA "features"

    So, when the iPhone comes to CDMA on Verizon, will the ability to use the phone and data at the same time no longer be a problem?

  1. dimmer

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    Joined: Feb 2006

    +1

    "Android is eating Apple's lunch"

    Forget Apple's lunch, you owe me for the breakfast I just laughed up all over my MacBook Pro. Sir, you are a comic genius.

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