Kindle has bookstore edge over iPad, but won't last long

updated 11:50 am EDT, Sat June 19, 2010

Analyst sees Amazon Kindle's edge lost to Apple


Amazon has the edge in the e-book market right now with the Kindle but will invariably lose ground to Apple over time, Citi analyst Mark Mahaney said in a research note on Friday. The Kindle store has both more selection and lower overall price than the iBookstore for the iPad, but Mahaney didn't think this would last as Apple refines its store and increases iPad sales. He didn't predict when this would happen but saw it as almost inevitable.

"It's hard to see why the gap won't narrow over time," the analyst said.

The gap in question is particularly close when it comes to the NYT bestseller lists, which often dictate the successes of digital titles. Only half of the newspaper's bestseller list is available on both platforms, but even two months after the iBookstore's launch Apple has 63 percent of the list where the more established Kindle has 88 percent. About 80 percent of the list is the same price, and the average price of a Kindle book is only about one dollar less, $11.23 versus Apple's $12.31. Those that are less expensive on the Kindle are often only about 11 percent cheaper.

Although not mentioned by Mahaney, Amazon also faces concern over the exposure of the Kindle reader and store versus Apple's devices. The online retailer has never been willing to reveal how many Kindles have been sold since they went on sale at the end of 2007, but unofficial estimates put this at somewhere over three million. Apple has already reached two million iPads in two months and has the potential to outsell the Kindle's lifetime sales before the end of the year. Only a fraction of those are likely to engage in significant e-book reading but may give publishers more incentive to offer books on Apple's store.

The situation may also be exacerbated by the imminent arrival of the iBooks app and store on iPhones and iPod touch players next week, when iOS launches. Amazon already has a Kindle app for both the iPad and iPhone but doesn't have the advantage of controlling either platform to promote their stores. iPad owners are given a one-time promotion of the iBooks app when they visit the App Store on the tablet.


By Electronista Staff

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  1. Jonathan-Tanya

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    +1

    Silly opinions

    True, Amazon doesn't control the App store.

    At the same time, Apple doesn't control Amazon.

    The analyst forgets that the Kindles mostly went to dedicated book readers, and Amazon is primarily known as being a book store.

    The fact that Apple will someday sell more iPads than Amazon Kindles, is part of the equation. However, the number of people who bought iPads to be something other than a dedicated book reader, has to be considered as well. It comes down to who is actually selling more books.

    The Kindle store is on the iPad. iBookstore is never on a Kindle.

    I'd say Apple has a lot going for it....no brainer that they are a competitor, and could do well in books. However, Apple has a lot to learn about being a good book store.

    One thing Apple hasn't clued in on yet, is book lovers often like to buy the paper version of the book too.


  1. aristotles

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    Uh.... virtually all e-book stores are on iPad

    I have the Kindle and Kobo HD (Indigo) apps installed on my iPad and I understand that Barnes and Noble has an app for the iPad as well. With the Kindle, you only have access to the Kindle store whereas on the iPad, you have access to all stores save for the Sony one.


  1. iphonerulez

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    I wonder what the fraction of iPad e-book

    readers amount to. Would it be as high as 20% or much less. Have they actually done a survey to find out exactly how many people use the iPad as a eReader? I know that everyone that buys a Kindle must download books since that what they bought it for. I would think that most people that buy iPads would at least download one book to see how it is and then maybe not download any books after that. With all the effort being put into iBook I'd honestly think that at least 50% of iPad users would download books occasionally.


  1. CmdrGampu

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    @iphonerulez

    I'm guessing you've never tried an iPad. People don't have to download a book to try. Apple includes a free copy of Winnie the Pooh, complete with the original illustrations, with every download of the iBooks app. I don't read that book, but I keep it on the iPad to demonstrate to people when they ask about it. They're always impressed at how good the text looks, the color illustrations, the search and dictionary options, etc. Then I start up any of the other 160 apps on my iPad and they're blown away by how much it can do. Google Earth. Color weather radar maps. Sketching applications. Youtube. Pandora. PDFs. USA Today. NPR. Color magazines in Zinio. Piano and other music apps. Almost all free apps. I think it's safe to say nobody is blown away by a Kindle. Seems almost everybody knows what an iPad is, and an awful lot of people after seeing mine say, "I have got to get one of those!"


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  1. appleuzr

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    @CmdrGampu

    So, you wrote 13 lines of non sense just so you could advertise the fact that you own an iPad? It would be safe to say that iphonerulez has used an iPad, at the very least in the Apple store for a brief second. Times are tough and not every has the extra change lying around to spend $500+ on an iPad.

    You should assume that everyone that frequents this forum, with the exception of testudo of course, is a bit of an Apple fan. Otherwise you probably wouldn't know this place (that reports only on Apple related news for the most part) even exists.

    Please don't talk down to people or assume that others haven't had the chance to experience simply because you have.

    We don't care that you have an iPad, we don't care that you have 160 other apps and yes there are people out there, as naive as they might be, that love their kindle.

    Please keep purchasing Apple hardware so my stock will continue to rise. Thank you and have a nice day.


  1. CmdrGampu

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    What is your problem, appleuzr?

    iphonerulz said that people might download one ebook, obviously not knowing that one is included. I corrected him then went on to explain that people who see it are impressed that the iPad is a lot more than basically a single-purpose item that can just show black and white books. Where did I say that I personally was superior just because I have an iPad? Everything I wrote was about the capabilities of the iPad and people's reactions to it. It sounds like you have a bad inferiority complex about not currently owning an iPad. How about we just say that we don't care that you have Apple stock. That sounds more like an off-topic, empty boast than anything I wrote. It's all about you, isn't it? If you were really making out like a bandit on Apple stock, you could easily afford an iPad and wouldn't be complaining that times are tough.


  1. qazwart

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    It's not Kindle vs. iPad

    It's really iBooks vs. Amazon's book store.

    And, Amazon has the edge here. The Kindle itself isn't all that important to Amazon as along as people buy ebooks from Amazon, and so far, Amazon has a few advantages: More titles, cheaper price, and for a while, it's application allowed for note taking while iBooks didn't.

    The Kindle itself is dead. No one is going to buy a Kindle DX for $485 when an iPad is available for a mere $10 more. The smaller Kindle is cheaper, but in the end, it's going to have limited sales. And, might not have enough to be profitable anymore.

    However, the point of the Kindles was to drive ebook sales, and that they did. Amazon should be working to improve its ebook application.The application should be the front end for the entire Amazon web store. It should improve page layout and allow people to refer to pages not as paged in the reader, but as laid out in the printed book, so everyone can refer to the same page number.

    In the end, as long as people buy books from Amazon, what happens to the Kindle is irrelevant.


  1. tbsteph

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    Amazon has the edge.?

    The Amazon store currently has over 600,000 titles available - the iBook store 30,000. Twenty times the content is hardly an "edge". Another point - 100% of Kindle owners use it to read books etc. What percent of iPad owners buy the device to read books? Personally, I find this comparison (iPad vs. Kindle) to be an asinine argument. They both are great devices for what they do.


  1. CmdrGampu

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    The key words are...

    "They both are great devices FOR WHAT THEY DO."

    Maybe that's one big reason the Kindle didn't sell well. Amazon is targeting only serious readers, not casual ones. Steve may be right in that there are fewer of those every year. Anybody who's not serious about reading books will not spend several hundred dollars on a device that does nothing but display books. Devices like the iPad are more attractive to casual readers because they can perform a lot of other everyday duties but on that relatively rare occasion become very capable ebook readers.

    The argument then becomes that even if only a lowball figure of 10% of iPad owners buy books, the latest figures being bandied around are in the neighborhood of 10 million iPads sold by the end of the year. Plus another 100 million iPhones/iPod touches within the next few years. Is 100% of the estimated 3 million Kindle owners more attractive to publishers to than 10% of over a hundred million units? If Apple promotes iBooks heavily and integrates it even more tightly with other apps like Mobile Safari, it can steal the thunder from even the Kindle app. Call it asinine if you want, but it's the same advantage the more tightly integrated Mac and OS combination brings against Windows and commodity PCs. There's also the question of whether that extra dollar difference in book price is money that's going into publishers' pockets. If it is, that's even more incentive for them to sign on with Apple. Besides, a publisher would be foolish to say that their books are available through the Kindle store and app and therefore there's no need to sell them through the iBookstore.


  1. herojig

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    Interesting topic...as a serious reader overseas..

    it's impossible for a traveler to own a library and keep it with them as they adventure through life. that's why my iphone has been great, as i use it as my book reader unless i am on a laptop or desktop, where I do all my web reading. i'm looking forward to iBook store support as soon as the 4.0 software is released through a jailbreak. I already am using the Classics app, which looks identical to the iBook app, but with unlimited titles (well, up to 30,000 or so). Anyway, I have never had an interest in a Kindle or any other ebook reader...this function should be integrated into all smartphones with large enough screens, like my 3G. cheers!


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