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Microsoft calls iPhone 4 Apple's Windows Vista

updated 02:05 pm EDT, Wed July 14, 2010

MS exec thinks iPhone 4 may mimic Vista's failure

Microsoft chief operating officer Kevin Turner skewered Apple's missteps with the iPhone 4 in his talk at the Windows Partner Conference today. He noted that Windows Phone 7 devices shouldn't have problems with holding the phone and likened the iPhone 4 to Microsoft's own experiences with Windows Vista, where development problems helped competitors gain ground. A stumble by Apple in public perception would help Windows Phone 7 attract customers just as Microsoft itself needs to restore its image.

"It looks like the iPhone 4 might be their Vista, and I'm okay with that," he said. "We're back in the game [at Microsoft], and this game is not over."

The statements reflect a growing sense that Apple may need to institute a recall or case giveaway to avoid a public image problem, but they also prove ironic given Microsoft's own recent difficulties. In addition to continued slides in Windows Mobile share as customers either opt for Android and iPhone devices or wait for Windows Phone 7. A very public death of the Kin has also raised questions about the company's ability to develop mobile projects without executive rivalries and an arbitrary use of code triggering delays or limiting features.

Microsoft itself is tentative about Windows Phone 7 and treats it as a 1.0 release that has dropped features like multitasking to make its late 2010 shipping target.

By Electronista Staff


  1. akulavolk

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    "Back in the game"

    Isn't Kin the Windows Vista of mobile phones, not the iPhone?

  1. nat

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    they're back in the game. on a product that's not yet available.
    vista? seriously? vista?

  1. eldarkus

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    a single design flaw is compared to the flop that is Vista? Wow... just.. wow!!!

  1. iphonerulez

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    This sort of talk from a company

    that put out the Kin that needed a price cut and still barely lasted a couple of weeks. The iPhone cannot be compared to Vista. Microsoft couldn't move Vista for a few years. iPhone 4 sales can't even be proved to be dropping in demand. Apple could redesign the iPhone 4 in a few months, if necessary. h***, Apple could give away case coupons and help promote third-party case companies. There is no way the iPhone 4 can be compared to Vista. Microsoft shouldn't even be bringing up Vista as it was such a huge embarrassment to Microsoft. Saying that Microsoft is back in the game is ludicrous. They don't even have a single player on their team.

  1. tonewheel

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    He compares a problem with a competitive product to HIS OWN product?

    Don't lose sight of the audience he was speaking to.

  1. MacAssemble

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    3rd Party

    If this comment were to come from a 3rd party that would be one thing, but it was said by Microsoft themselves and will be taken as competitive behavior and nothing more.

  1. tundaman

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    Windows Vista: synonymous to failure

    I can decide which one is more hilarious:

    1) Microsoft chief operating officer referring to it's core business as synonymous of failure at a partner's conference;


    2) He saying that M$ is "back in the game", when Apple still cannot keep up with demand for iPhones 4, while M$ is MONTHS AWAY of releasing(maybe???) an attempt of a "new" phone OS that cannot stand besides the old iOS3 feature-wise.

    OK, NOW big mouth Steve "monkey boy" Baldmer got a contender in the same league!!!


  1. chas_m



    Pretty hilarious

    Yeah, perhaps the iPhone 4 has flaws. Wouldn't be the first time Apple took a chance and it didn't work out as they'd hoped.

    Of course, stupid MS can't understand that that's the price you pay to TAKE CHANCES. To THINK DIFFERENT. To INNOVATE. Naturally that concept seems foreign to them.

    AND YET ... their track ratio of failure v. successes is VERY HIGH, and when they're to the point that they refer to one of their own current products as the YARDSTICK OF FAILURE, they really have no room to talk to or about Apple.

    Hypocrisy and hubris ... reasons #47 and #48 why Microsoft is on the downward slide ...

  1. c4rlob

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    One big difference...

    Too bad Microsoft doesn't have the equivalent of a Mac OSX to outshine iPhone4 similar to the way Apple was able to kick around Vista in their TV commercials.

  1. Paul Huang

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    Joined: Sep 1999


    wasn't even in the game, so how could it be 'back'

    Microsoft could only wish.

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