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Apple adds Nokia N97 mini to antenna comparisons

updated 12:50 pm EDT, Wed July 21, 2010

Motivations unclear

Apple has added an extra comparison phone to its special webpage dealing with iPhone 4 reception problems. New in the group is the Nokia N97 mini, which Apple claims can drop in signal strength from seven bars to two when held in the same grip that kills an iPhone's reception. Nokia has previously tried to refute Apple's position that the iPhone 4 is simply suffering from an industry-wide flaw.

Why Apple would continue adding to the page is uncertain. The company may be interested in deflecting accusations from Nokia, or simply in bolstering the evidence in its favor. At a minimum it indicates that Apple is still interested in managing public perception of the iPhone's problems, which have reached mainstream news coverage and forced the company to give out refunds and free cases.


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  1. testudo

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    Wow!

    Now just ignore the fact that the Nokia went down to 2 bars while the iPhone loses a signal. That is meaningless to the point that every phone has the problem.

    But I see what Apple's problem is! They should add MORE BARS! Nokia has 7 and it dropped to 2. Well, if the iPhone had, say, 10 bars, then they'd have some 5 or so left after the death grip!

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  1. Jonathan-Tanya

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    Low class, Apple

    Apple misfired badly at its press conference. They drew all these other companies, Nokia, RIM, Google, into the conversation - not realizing they would have their own voice.

    By the next day, it was their competitors controlling the conversation and not them.

    That never had to happen. But its like some hyper-sensitive Prima donna has taken control at Apple, and their PR department has been cast aside.

    And now, more of the same, comeuppance? Apple, c'mon, this is totally low class.

    The important factor, is did the call complete and was the sound quality OK - bar signal is a false goal - it gives a little idea of the signal strength and what to expect - but ultimately the issue is, did the phone drop the call or not.

  1. bjojade

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    It depends on where you start...

    With most phones, if you have a signal strength of 50% or more, they report it as a full signal. By moving the meaning of full bars, you will more accurately know if you are in a weak area or not.

    'more bars in more places' shouldn't have been a software fix. It should be reality on the phone service! If you have a strong signal, you can hold the phone however you like. If you are in a weak area, you should be able to see that with the signal on your phone!

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  1. IxOsX

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    Ridiculous

    This is just a ridicule... Apple should compare their products with the ones that have the best of quality, not with the ones with low quality. In this situation Nokia have lots of models, this is just one on many. I challenge Apple to compare with the bests of Nokia, and we will see if the problem happens. This is just sand for the eyes.

    This is no excuse for Apple for the lousy work done with iPhone 4 antenna. iPhone 4 have a lot of great and good things, but the antenna is not one of them. End of Story!!!

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  1. redcapzero

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    oh my

    ...here we go again. To agree with .."a prima dona has taken control"...accurate; unfortunate. Oh well, let the badgering begin.

  1. Herod

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    im glad apple is fighting back

    for years they have taken this "high road" and kept there mouth shut. it almost killed them.

  1. abisaab

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    They have the right

    All that Apple is saying is that this phenomenon is widespread and nobody is saying anything about it for the other vendors., so obviously it is not an issue. In reality it is not an issue. If you put your hand on that sacred spot which everybody feels that he has to cover, simply remove your hand and the reception is restored. Everyone uses a case for the iPhone so where is the problem.
    You do not buy a product because you like the CEO. You buy a product because you like it and if the support is good. The iPhone shines on both accounts. Even the antenna is excellent. If you do not short it intentionally its reception is superior to other designs.

  1. testudo

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    Re: They have the right

    and nobody is saying anything about it for the other vendors., so obviously it is not an issue.


    Right, it's a non-issue because no other vendor gets a complaint. It can't be that Apple actually has a more severe version of the problem. Nah! And it certainly can't be that the iPhone is more susceptible because of the location of the antenna and how one holds it to make it lose connection is a natural location rather than all the other phones that supposedly have this issue.

    Nah! It must be just how everyone has it against Apple.

    Everyone uses a case for the iPhone so where is the problem.

    Everyone does? Really? Then why do people so care about whether the iphone is made of glass or metal or plastic. h***, Apple is wasting a lot of time and money and losing sales on the great white iPhone so it can use some colored glass. Just slap some plastic on it instead. Who cares, since it's all behind a case anyway.


    You do not buy a product because you like the CEO. You buy a product because you like it and if the support is good. The iPhone shines on both accounts.


    I'm sorry, have you met the Apple-fanboy crowd.

    Even the antenna is excellent. If you do not short it intentionally its reception is superior to other designs.

    Right, no one can short out the antenna unless they intentionally do it. It couldn't be that the antenna is just located in a horrible position, esp. if you're left-handed. No, it's all done intentionally.

    And even Apple says they drop more calls with the new iPhone than their last one (what was it, 1 more out of every hundred, Steve said).

  1. testudo

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    And

    Still waiting for one person to explain why no one ever complained about this problem with the iPhone 1, 2, or 3. It must have been there, since every phone has this issue. And all those Apple haters out there must have been looking for a reason to trounce on apple. But, yet, it never made any news, not even on simple tech blogs like MacNN, who'll tell you basically anything from any user.

    Nope, not a word. Just ignore that question and just push the Apple mantra of "everyone has the issue".

  1. ilovestevejobs

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    Wow...

    Some or actually most fanboys just can't accept that Apple is not perfect

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