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1. testudo

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   07/21, 12:59pm | report spam | close reply

   Wow!

   Now just ignore the fact that the Nokia went down to 2 bars while the iPhone loses a signal. That is meaningless to the point that every phone has the problem.
   
   But I see what Apple's problem is! They should add MORE BARS! Nokia has 7 and it dropped to 2. Well, if the iPhone had, say, 10 bars, then they'd have some 5 or so left after the death grip!

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1. Jonathan-Tanya

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   07/21, 01:28pm | report spam | (2 replies) close | reply

   Low class, Apple

   Apple misfired badly at its press conference. They drew all these other companies, Nokia, RIM, Google, into the conversation - not realizing they would have their own voice.
   
   By the next day, it was their competitors controlling the conversation and not them.
   
   That never had to happen. But its like some hyper-sensitive Prima donna has taken control at Apple, and their PR department has been cast aside.
   
   And now, more of the same, comeuppance? Apple, c'mon, this is totally low class.
   
   The important factor, is did the call complete and was the sound quality OK - bar signal is a false goal - it gives a little idea of the signal strength and what to expect - but ultimately the issue is, did the phone drop the call or not.
   
   

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1. bjojade

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   07/21, 01:48pm | report spam | close reply

   It depends on where you start...

   With most phones, if you have a signal strength of 50% or more, they report it as a full signal. By moving the meaning of full bars, you will more accurately know if you are in a weak area or not.
   
   'more bars in more places' shouldn't have been a software fix. It should be reality on the phone service! If you have a strong signal, you can hold the phone however you like. If you are in a weak area, you should be able to see that with the signal on your phone!

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1. IxOsX

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   07/21, 01:56pm | report spam | (1 reply) close | reply

   Ridiculous

   This is just a ridicule... Apple should compare their products with the ones that have the best of quality, not with the ones with low quality. In this situation Nokia have lots of models, this is just one on many. I challenge Apple to compare with the bests of Nokia, and we will see if the problem happens. This is just sand for the eyes.
   
   This is no excuse for Apple for the lousy work done with iPhone 4 antenna. iPhone 4 have a lot of great and good things, but the antenna is not one of them. End of Story!!!
   
   

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1. redcapzero

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   07/21, 01:58pm | report spam | close reply

   oh my

   ...here we go again. To agree with .."a prima dona has taken control"...accurate; unfortunate. Oh well, let the badgering begin.
   

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1. Herod

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   07/21, 03:06pm | report spam | (1 reply) close | reply

   im glad apple is fighting back

   for years they have taken this "high road" and kept there mouth shut. it almost killed them.

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1. abisaab

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   07/21, 04:51pm | report spam | (1 reply) close | reply

   They have the right

   All that Apple is saying is that this phenomenon is widespread and nobody is saying anything about it for the other vendors., so obviously it is not an issue. In reality it is not an issue. If you put your hand on that sacred spot which everybody feels that he has to cover, simply remove your hand and the reception is restored. Everyone uses a case for the iPhone so where is the problem.
   You do not buy a product because you like the CEO. You buy a product because you like it and if the support is good. The iPhone shines on both accounts. Even the antenna is excellent. If you do not short it intentionally its reception is superior to other designs.

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1. testudo

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   07/21, 06:16pm | report spam | close reply

   Re: They have the right

   and nobody is saying anything about it for the other vendors., so obviously it is not an issue.
   
   
   Right, it's a non-issue because no other vendor gets a complaint. It can't be that Apple actually has a more severe version of the problem. Nah! And it certainly can't be that the iPhone is more susceptible because of the location of the antenna and how one holds it to make it lose connection is a natural location rather than all the other phones that supposedly have this issue.
   
   Nah! It must be just how everyone has it against Apple.
   
   Everyone uses a case for the iPhone so where is the problem.
   
   Everyone does? Really? Then why do people so care about whether the iphone is made of glass or metal or plastic. h***, Apple is wasting a lot of time and money and losing sales on the great white iPhone so it can use some colored glass. Just slap some plastic on it instead. Who cares, since it's all behind a case anyway.
   
   
   You do not buy a product because you like the CEO. You buy a product because you like it and if the support is good. The iPhone shines on both accounts.
   
   I'm sorry, have you met the Apple-fanboy crowd.
   
   Even the antenna is excellent. If you do not short it intentionally its reception is superior to other designs.
   
   Right, no one can short out the antenna unless they intentionally do it. It couldn't be that the antenna is just located in a horrible position, esp. if you're left-handed. No, it's all done intentionally.
   
   And even Apple says they drop more calls with the new iPhone than their last one (what was it, 1 more out of every hundred, Steve said).

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1. testudo

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   07/21, 06:19pm | report spam | (1 reply) close | reply

   And

   Still waiting for one person to explain why no one ever complained about this problem with the iPhone 1, 2, or 3. It must have been there, since every phone has this issue. And all those Apple haters out there must have been looking for a reason to trounce on apple. But, yet, it never made any news, not even on simple tech blogs like MacNN, who'll tell you basically anything from any user.
   
   Nope, not a word. Just ignore that question and just push the Apple mantra of "everyone has the issue".

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1. ilovestevejobs

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   07/21, 08:13pm | report spam | close reply

   Wow...

   Some or actually most fanboys just can't accept that Apple is not perfect

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1. IxOsX

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   07/22, 03:06am | report spam | close reply

   Is this a kind of a religion?

   Is amazing how people can't accept criticism and sometimes just prefer to maintain their eyes closed.
   
   For me Apple is a great company with great products, I have a lot of them, but if you all just put your head on the sand, what will happen if Apple does not pay attention again in the future for mistakes like that?
   
   I just does not accept the fact what Apple is saying, that some others have in some few equipment the some problem or similar, so we are (eq:Apple) escuse for or bad reception antenna problems. I miself have assess to lots of smartphones, and I agree that the problem happens on some few equipment's, and that as been ignored for years. But for the reports, the problem is much higher on iPhone 4 then on any other equipment with the some suppost problem.
   
   As I say, I admire and love products from Apple, I defend Apple if they are wright, but never count me in to be just more one worthy religion fanatic that can't think by his head.
   
   I will wait for iPhone 5 in the hope the some mistakes are not maintain, because Apple says there is no solution, witch is only true for the actual iPhone 4 design.
   
   And now juts give again the minus to hide my commentary. :-)

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1. casajr

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   07/22, 11:03pm | report spam | close reply

   I Guess I4 is Just For Right Handed People

   Looking at the "wrong" way to hold an iPhone is exactly the most natural way for a left handed person to hold the phone. OOOOOOOOOPS. Who tested this?

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1. casajr

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   07/22, 11:04pm | report spam | close reply

   I Guess I4 is Just For Right Handed People

   Looking at the "wrong" way to hold an iPhone is exactly the most natural way for a left handed person to hold the phone. OOOOOOOOOPS. Who tested this?

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1. SuperSport

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   07/30, 01:06pm | report spam | close reply

   Apple, Stop trying to deny Your Mistake!

   Apple needs to stop trying to spread the blame around. It's looking sorta desperate now. You've shown enough videos in your carefully located position.
   
   Also, do you notice how they are doing the death grip on the phones in the videos? You cannot even use the phone in that manner. He's gripping it so tightly his hand is turning red. He's got his fingers wrapped around the front of the phone. It would prevent you from even hearing the call. If used in a NORMAL way, there is a BIG difference between the iPhone 4 and other phones.
   
   I've got about 10 phones sitting around me now, and the iPhone 4 is by FAR the worst with reception when held LIGHTLY the way you normally would hold a phone for a call, (Left OR Right Handed). This REAL WORLD test is done right here in front of me on the Same Exact Sim Card sitting in the Same Exact Spot on the Same Exact Network. There's no doubt there is a large difference between them.
   
   It's simple electronics principles. If you touch an antenna with your bare skin, it will absolutely cause a negative reaction. This has been known since the beginning of antennas.
   
   Apple, stop looking silly and fix the issue on the next iPhone release. You made a mistake, Admit it, and Move On Already...