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Android creator Andy Rubin defines open for Steve Jobs

updated 05:20 am EDT, Tue October 19, 2010

Definition posted on Rubins Twitter account

Andy Rubin, the creator of Android has reportedly defined 'open' in response to comments made by Apple CEO Steve Jobs today about the openness of the platform. At Apple's fourth quarter 2010 results, Job's remarked that Google's claims of openness are "disingenuous". In response Rubin tweeted a snippet of Android code pictured below.

The reference to 'git' is the source repository for the Android platform. It is a distributed revision control system that is accessible for any coders wishing to contribute to the development of the Android platform, or access its code. According to Jobs, that various manufacturers add their own code layer to Android has resulted in its fragmentation. This has, in effect, resulted in the platform being 'closed' according to vendor and its respective distro and has left consumers increasingly confused.

Google has yet to formally respond to Jobs' comments, but this may be a sign that the Apple CEO has hit a nerve in the Google camp.




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  1. Wingsy

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    +8

    Open = Choice?

    “mkdir android ; cd android ; repo init -u git://android.gitREVA.kernel.org/platform/manifest.git ; repo sync ; make”

    “mkdir android ; cd android ; repo init -u git://android.gitREVB.kernel.org/platform/manifest.git ; repo sync ; make”

    “mkdir android ; cd android ; repo init -u git://android.gitREVC.kernel.org/platform/manifest.git ; repo sync ; make”

    “mkdir android ; cd android ; repo init -u git://android.gitREVD.kernel.org/platform/manifest.git ; repo sync ; make”

    “mkdir android ; cd android ; repo init -u git://android.gitREVE.kernel.org/platform/manifest.git ; repo sync ; make”

    “mkdir android ; cd android ; repo init -u git://android.gitREVF.kernel.org/platform/manifest.git ; repo sync ; make”

    “mkdir android ; cd android ; repo init -u git://android.gitREVG.kernel.org/platform/manifest.git ; repo sync ; make”

    Choose one. I Dare ya.

  1. Wingsy

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    What's up with no commas?

    You'd think a comma would be a legitimate member of the character set.

  1. Wingsy

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    What's up with no quotes?

    Arrrggg! I meant quotes.

  1. Makosuke

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    +30

    Semantics

    Really, they're both right. Android is certainly open in that the source code of the platform is exposed to the world at large. But in practice, it's every bit as locked down as iOS for the average user on most carriers and devices, often moreso, because Google isn't as fanatical about uniform user experience as Apple (on account of the openness, they basically can't be). So Jobs is right too.

    It's all semantics--yes, it's "open" but it's also not really "open." If you feel strongly about either type of openness, then pick the platform that's more or less open in that respect. Or just pick the one you think works better for you and ignore the silly word games.

    Aside: Given the gCEO's recent comments about how he thinks search should work, I'm not feeling at all comfortable with the company's ascendency in the neo-OS world. Jobs is draconian, but in a narrow, artistic, obsessive way--do it my way or go buy something else. Google apparently just wants to be your hive mind. And given how much information from just about ALL of us they already have, that's frankly kind of scary.

    Second aside: It seems often overlooked that the core of OSX is also pretty open (BSD), and that is also the fundamental core of iOS. No, you can't build your own iOS distro, but it's not Windows, either.

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  1. wrenchy

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    Very witty Andy


    Way to put that Con-Artist back in his place.

    >>>but this is the first sign that the Apple CEO has hit a nerve in the Google camp.

    Oh please... This is the first sign Steve Jobs has shown he is aware of the trouble he (Apple) is in and is trying desperately to find what little he can to attack Google/Android.

    If you are so confident that Apple will succeed, why embarrass yourself by pointing out the faults of others like a little child? Claiming that a product will be "DOA" when released? Now that really shows you are concerned.

    Oh Stevie-boi, just keep doing what you're doing, Google will continue to do what they're doing. We'll see who wins. Mind your own fric kin' business.

  1. slur

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    Darwin vs. Android

    Anyone who wants to can - for free - contribute to the Darwin kernel which is at the heart of Mac OS X and - in some respects - at the heart of iOS as well. However, the foundation classes, Cocoa, and the various toolkits are closed source. Android, presumably, has most of its system open source, but allows device manufacturers to add closed-source components. This is similar to different distributions of Linux or Unix using different desktops like Gnome, KDE, etc.

    In a sense, Android faces the same challenges as Linux in terms of user-adoption. If the interfaces differ very much, it will have a hard time establishing a real brand identity.

    And at the moment Android has major issues in terms of the number of data-mining trojan apps that are being allowed to get through. Without some kind of central gatekeeper, Android comes off at the moment as seeming a very dangerous choice. Identity theft is no joke. You think you're just playing solitaire? Are you sure?

    Hopefully Android can overcome these issues as it matures, but someone is really going to have to step up. Someone with money, intimately connected to the Android system, who could afford to build a decent gated app store... Who do we know in Silicon Valley who could do that? And maybe even afford to partner with Apple to improve the general information security in this brave new portable networked world?

    Google, step up! It's not enough to provide a GIT host and openness! A little bit of "closedness" is exactly what is indicated. Think it over...

  1. jarod

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    Whatever

    Linux has been free for the longest time and comes in a million flavours. It is also continuously developed by some really bright people. YET, less than 1% of the world population, use it or have an interest in using it. Why? Because its a pain in the a** to understand for regular folks; let alone secure it properly. People want someone really good to provide them with a really good and reliable product. Apple is that answer; not Google. Google is trying to be everything to everyone - another sign of the new Microsoft failure. Stick to search - leave the rest to those that have a clue. I've seen and used several android phones. They're cheap and are no where near the iPhone experience.

  1. tundaman

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    Will apple "succeed"???

    Oh wrenchy, you silly boy...

    I think $20.34 billion revenue, 14.1 million iPhones shipped in just one quarter and being close to become the biggest company IN THE WHOLE WORLD says something about Apple "succeeding", don't you?

  1. cashxx

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    My Response code

    cp apple android

    Thats the only code Google knows.

  1. SockRolid

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    Joined: Jan 2010

    +14

    Try this, Rubin

    cd /
    sudo rm * -f

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