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1. global.philosopher

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   12/12, 06:22pm | report spam | close reply

   Too small...too expensive

   Samsung have their marketing arse about. For the small screen size and lack of OS/app support it should be cheaper not more expensive or equally priced to the iPad. In addition they have done little market research and have simply copied Apple's innovation so they saved money there too. Looks like they think their brand name is worth more than it truley is.

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1. climacs

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   12/12, 07:10pm | report spam | close reply

   review nails it

   Samsung was indeed more concerned about rushing to market rather than putting out a quality product.
   
   You only get 1 chance to make a good first impression, and like nearly all the Apple copycats, Samsung has blown it.
   
   I'm sure they will sell some to masochists like Wrenchy who have an irrational hatred for all things Apple, but it's not going to be much of a threat to iPad and if anything, it will remind people that Apple products are the best.

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1. Foe Hammer

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   12/12, 07:26pm | report spam | close reply

   How Can You Call Wretchy's Hatred of All Things Ap

   ... "irrational," climacs? By your own analysis - and by definition - a m******** derives pleasure from pain. What better way for Wretchy to achieve ultimate masochistic gratification in the technology world than by willfully depriving him/her/itself of Apple products? Hence the term "textbook case."

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1. 001

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   12/12, 08:35pm | report spam | close reply

   Love it

   "Flash often a liability, not a help."

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1. chas_m

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   12/12, 09:18pm | report spam | close reply

   Doesn't matter

   The Galaxy Tab will sell in modest numbers, and that's okay: everyone who buys one or doesn't knows the same thing: if it hadn't been for Apple, there would BE no Galaxy Tab or indeed much of a tablet market at all. We know this because the tablet market existed (if you can call it that) for years, and then ONE THING changed last year and suddenly its the hottest category in tech. Name that one thing, and guess what, it wasn't "Samsung decides to build a half-decent tablet."
   
   Same thing with smartphones. They existed before Apple (barely). But now EVERY smartphone is a copy of the iPhone and iOS. Android simply wouldn't exist had it not been for the iPhone.
   
   So irrational haters of Apple, buy your copycat devices running their copycat OSes all day for all I care. The reality is that Apple makes those copycat devices possible, and the other reality is that most people know who's the innovator and who's the copycat -- and buy accordingly.

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1. chas_m

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   12/12, 09:19pm | report spam | close reply

   PS.

   Very good, fair, evenhanded review IMO.

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1. DerekMorr

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   12/12, 10:41pm | report spam | (1 reply) close | reply

   more bias from electronista

   This is a rather biased review.
   
   Why do they prattle so much about the alleged thickness of the device? It's actually (slightly) thinner than an iPad. Perhaps the Tab seems thicker than it is because of its small size. Also, why is Samsung's use of PDMI called "reactionary?" PDMI is an open standard; it's also used on the Dell Streak. This use of weasel words further illustrates the bias of the reviewers.
   
   The paragraph on the hardware buttons is also flawed. One does not need to wait for Honeycomb for on-screen buttons that change orientation. The Archos101 does this today.
   
   The review also slights the Tab for running Android 2.2, "which is no longer the most recent version." 2.3 isn't even shipping yet! It's been announced, but no shipping device has it. Criticizing Samsung for not shipping 2.3 is ridiculous and once again shows the bias and sloppiness in the review.
   
   The reviewers say that "there isn't currently a system in place to write specifically for tablets versus phones, let alone a universal development system." They apparently haven't read Google's developer documents, which detail how to design alternative layouts for different screen resolutions and pixel densities. See, for example, this page in the Android dev docs - http://developer.android.com/guide/practices/screens_support.html - or this talk from Google I/O 2010 - http://www.google.com/events/io/2010/sessions/casting-wide-net-android-devices.html

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1. xmlaroux

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   12/13, 10:33am | report spam | close reply

   @DerekMorr

   You can't write an objective review here as everyone loves to donate their money to Steve.
   
   I like Apple products as I have many Pod's, touches. But I don't like being locked in place. My kids have touches, I have a Droid. I love my Droid, wouldn't change it for anything.
   
   All, if not 95% of reviews are bias in my opinion. The Archos line is a prime example of a great product, priced correctly, and delivers what it says. The Archos tablets don't imitate the iPad, they push Apple to grow. Everyone here in this forum have never seen an Archos tablet. I bet Google is learning from Archos on how to design Honeycomb.
   
   I love how Samsung is beat up on 2.3... prime example of the view from Appleland.
   
   Have you noticed that IOS now has updates every month? Didn't it only get updated once or twice a year? Now iOS users get goodness many times a year. They need to thank Google for that, not bash.

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1. vasic

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   12/13, 10:34am | report spam | close reply

   no bias here

   The review is absolutely correct; there is simply no system in place to write specifically for tablets. The android dev doc you refer to applies only to smartphones of various screen sizes and resolutions. Google has stated many times that Android is NOT suitable for tablet use yet; at least not until honeycomb arrives. All those different pixel densities and screen resolutions are available for phones; NOT tablets. Those who think there is no fundamental difference between the two categories are seriously mistaken. Google themselves apparently don't, which is why they recommend tablet makers wait for 3.0.

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1. mytdave

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   12/13, 02:34pm | report spam | close reply

   questionable bias

   I didn't like the review much at all. I think it didn't give enough credit to the Tab and to the iPad in a number of cases, and at the same time also seemed quite inaccurate toward both devices in other areas.
   
   Having used both devices, I think the iPad is the far superior device. But clearly, the review is perplexing in some comments, such as how they think rotating the Tab has any affect on how the hardware buttons work, or the comment of Apple not understanding the Internet... The hardware buttons on the Tab are fine in any orientation unless you're stupid, and Apple clearly understands the Internet, far more than lots of companies - not having to trust the cloud is a bonus.
   
   At this juncture, I'd prefer a new review by some other folks.