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1. Foe Hammer

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   12/15, 12:06pm | report spam | close reply

   Adobe: There Really Wasn't A Problem

   Adobe: See? By just shifting a little of that stuff that a CPU does to a GPU, we made it even better! So we don't know why everyone hopping on Steve Jobs' coattails was complaining about the purported "performance issues" in Flash.

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1. vasic

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   12/15, 12:25pm | report spam | (1 reply) close | reply

   Disingenuous

   Adobe is saying that they are now ten times more efficient. However, I'm pretty sure this will only apply to H.264 or similar video, wrapped inside SWF or other Adobe container.
   
   Unfortunately, this likely won't do ANYTHING for other Flash content. Just spend a few minutes on Playhousedisney.com, or Nickjr.com. Kids' games on these sites are undisputed world champions of memory and processing cycle wasting.
   
   I have several user profiles on my MacBook. Two of them are kids. When they open these sites and I switch users to my own profile (under fast user switching), the computer pretty much freezes. It takes me 5 minutes to switch back to their profiles and kill Safari, after which computer goes back to normal.
   
   I sincerely doubt that the new version will resolve this problem simply by offloading some work to the graphics card.

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1. slapppy

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   12/15, 12:27pm | report spam | close reply

   After years of neglecting...

   No thanks. After years of neglecting the Mac platform and their users, too little too late. Goodbye FLASH.

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1. vintagegeek

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   12/15, 12:50pm | report spam | close reply

   Can't Wait to Try

   Great. Maybe now I'll be able to enable Flash in my Browser again without watching the System Spike, the FANS wurring, and the Temp climbing to, not so good levels, I'm sure.

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1. kerryb

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   12/15, 01:02pm | report spam | close reply

   A good thing (TM)

   Okay it is not too often that I miss flash while browsing on my iPad. However there are a lot of sites I visit that are heavy into flash and any improvement Adobe can make for my desktop browser will be appreciated. We all know they are busting it out to keep Flash an attractive tool for web creation but the only thing that will save Flash is to open it up as in open source if is to have any future. Adobe cannot expect their buyout of Macromedia and it's then important Flash application to be bringing dividends forever.

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1. jpellino

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   12/15, 01:08pm | report spam | close reply

   Really?

   I'll believe it when I osembcra ish$(egbe&@#lidg olanf zz.................................................

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1. testudo

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   12/15, 01:32pm | report spam | close reply

   wrong, wrong, wrong

   YouTube itself, however, is among a number of websites now offering HTML5 as an option for watching videos.
   
   HTML5 isn't an option to watching videos, since HTML5 isn't a video option.
   
   HTML5 has a 'video' tag, in which the browser should then understand it's a movie and play it. However, there's not even a standard as to what format that video has to be.
   
   While not suited to live streaming, the technology also doesn't require a plugin, and is less prone to crashes than Flash.
   
   It doesn't require a plugin, as long as your browser supports the video format. If it doesn't, than it does require a plugin.
   
   And it's only less prone to crashing if the code within the browser (or plug-in) is written well enough. Then again, Flash is 600 more things than just a video playback plugin, so there's also more places for problems in there.
   
   

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1. jay3ld

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   12/15, 01:40pm | report spam | (1 reply) close | reply

   How is this any better?

   Sure you are off loading some of the demand to the GPU, but that doesn't solve the problem. This is basically trying to sweep the problem under the rug. Flash still eats resources and now it just will eat your GPUs resources instead of your CPU.
   
   

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1. Bobfozz

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   12/15, 01:49pm | report spam | close reply

   good ole Adobe CEO

   Still tap dancing and wondering why people give him ZERO credibility. It seems like not a week goes by when Adobe announces another Flash improvement while all the time still pretending that Steve Jobs and his very smart engineers do not know what they are complaining about. It also seems like, as time goes by, even the supporters of Flash are weakening. With Apple it's about the experience, with Adobe it is about pointing fingers and $$$.

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1. icewing

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   12/15, 03:13pm | report spam | close reply

   Adobe: "Flash! New and Improved!"

   "The new 10.2 now sucks a tenth as much as before!"

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1. facebook_Donald

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   12/15, 03:26pm | report spam | close reply

   But can you use it?

   Check their download site. This is 32bit only. If you're using OS X in 64-bit mode this will only slow you down. I can see Adobe's new motto: Yesterday's Technology Today!

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1. CarlRJ

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   12/15, 03:54pm | report spam | close reply

   Here's the thing...

   Adobe is now saying that Flash is 10 times more efficient and surely should be used everywhere (like, you know, on those iPhone and iPad thingies)...
   
   But a year or two ago they WEREN'T saying, "please consider adding Flash at some point in the future, when we hope to get it to perform almost decently," ... they were saying, "What are you talking about? Flash runs just fine on _every_ platform. You owe it to the world to include it on the iPhone, it's a basic human right, like Air." (ha)
   
   They were going apoplectic over the idea that some noticeable segment of the web browsing market would go Flash-less, thus overturning the Apple-cart (ha) they were using to sell spendy Flash development tools to developers: the idea that "Flash runs on every platform".
   
   HTML5/CSS/SVG/JavaScript etc. are open standards, and are being implemented by "everybody" -- notice how Mozilla, Google, and Apple are in something of an arms race, actively competing to make their JavaScript implementations run faster than the competition, and constantly leapfrogging each other. This is a good thing -- every time one of them improves, the users win. Adobe's Flash has had no competition (in the Flash arena) for, basically, forever, and, aside from the last few months, Adobe has done nothing to improve the performance of its cr*ptastic plugin on non-Windows platforms for years ("go away and stop bothering us, we're busy with Windows"), until somebody has come along to threaten their little kingdom/monopoly, now all of a sudden, they're interested in helping out "the little guy", for purely humanitarian reasons (yeah right).
   
   Sorry, got off on a rant there.

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1. wrenchy

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   12/15, 03:59pm | report spam | close reply

   But is Flash 10.2

   
   Magical now?

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1. socritic

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   12/15, 04:26pm | report spam | close reply

   comment title

   One response, and i'm feeling the same thing from everyone at the Media Firm i work at, s**** ADOBE. It's been way too long, and no one really cares about this anymore. as far as we're concerned, Adobe lost this battle. Good luck

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1. bobdroid

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   12/17, 07:14am | report spam | close reply

   On which platform?

   Adobe's made statements like this before, but generally it only applies to Windows. Other platforms get little to none of these optimizations, which is part of the reason Mac (and Linux) users carry so much resentment toward Flash.

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1. Nigel2112

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   12/21, 03:55am | report spam | close reply

   Yes, I'm bitter.

   If Apple 'heavily promotes' HTML5 I'm missing it.
   
   Apple had a fabulous chance to showcase the amazing powers of HTML5 with a radically updated iWeb app, and its new big brother; iWeb Pro. Windows version out soon!! Just think, we could all be easily designing stunning websites that utilize the astonishing capabilities of HTML5, astounding our geek friends and delighting small children. Kick clunky Flash to the curb!!
   
   I expected Apple to continue iWeb development, much like Xserve customers expected to continue using the best server system out there. At least they got forewarned about the mothballing.
   Looks like you can count on Apple to do one thing:
   Whatever the h*ll Steve wants.