iTunes, others mulling move to 24-bit music tracks

updated 11:00 am EST, Tue February 22, 2011

iTunes may leap to 24-bit audio


Apple and others are considering upgrading the audio on tracks a second time to get close to master-level audio quality, sources both public and otherwise said on Tuesday. Label heads are negotiating to bring the underlying bit depth from 16-bit to 24-bit. The move would bring the audio quality from CD-level to the same detail as the master tracks from the studio, CNN heard, or of the rarely used DVD-Audio format.

Interscope-Geffen-A&M head Jimmy Iovine at the HP webOS event ended up inadvertently if briefly confirming a push towards 24-bit audio through music stores and hinted that Apple and others might have to upgrade the iPhone, iPod and other devices to handle the extra depth.

"We've gone back now at Universal, and we're changing our pipes to 24-bit," he said. "And Apple has been great. We're working with them and other digital services -- download services -- to change to 24-bit. And some of their electronic devices are going to be changed as well."

Existing devices from the industry can handle lossless audio formats like Apple Lossless, AIFF, and FLAC, but they still lose significant detail without the source material having an underlying 24-bit depth. Compressed audio like the AAC or MP3 used on most stores won't necessarily bring out the full 24-bit quality but can still usually see an improvement by giving the audio the most efficient use of the bitrate, or bandwidth, assigned to the format.

The strategy could partly eliminate an audiophile complaint about digital music stores, although many aren't likely to offer the lossless files they would need to get studio-quality tracks. Where most are either pushing the limits of lossy audio with 256Kbps AAC or 320Kbps MP3, lossless usually starts at about 700Kbps and would more than double the file size of songs. The shift would greatly reduce the number of songs that could fit on to an iPhone or a similar device, and might make a MobileMe media locker difficult to use over 3G in some areas.

Audio quality has so far only taken one real leap in online music stores, when most went from selling tracks at a 128Kbps bitrate to at least 256Kbps or 320Kbps. While enough for even intermediate users, those with high-end speakers or studio monitor-level headphones can often notice the lack of detail.


By Electronista Staff

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  1. BigMac2

    Forum Regular

    Joined: Dec 2000

    +4

    It's about time to boost digital audio sampling.

    The CD format has more than 30 years Old, and still the audio quality reference. They has been many other format with better audio quality than CD like the DAT, MD, SACD, DVD-Audio. They all failed because the music industry tried everything they can to cripple those format with DRM making it much more expensive and less attractive than cassettes and CDs.

    Modern computer can support much higher audio quality than CDs, latest mac sport an 96khz-32bits audio card with optical out. That making a MacMini or MacBook Air a better music player than many audiophile setup out there.


  1. David Esrati

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    Joined: Jun 1999

    +4

    long overdue

    Compression has killed the joy of music for audiophiles- and the mass markets.
    Most people don't know what music can sound like.
    We'll also have to give up on these ear buds- if we want real high fidelity... nothing worse than the rocket propelled sound- blasting right at the eardrum.


  1. sidewaysdesign

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    Joined: Feb 2011

    +2

    Great news, but I hope they go to 24bit/96khz

    This could certainly bring me back into the mainstream music-buying market. However, I hope they don't stop at just 24bit/44.1KHz or 24bit/48KHz - very few studios can master at those frequencies well enough to avoid high-frequency artifacts that contribute to the harshness. At 96KHz frequency (or greater), it's easier to get smooth-sounding results.

    I'd gladly pay double the going iTunes (et al) rates for a broader selection of music, and the broad reach of online stores would bypass the problem of inconsistent media/hardware requirements of SACD, DVD-Audio, Blu-Ray, etc.

    Now, how about a 24/96 capable iPod as well?


  1. elroth

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    Joined: Jul 2006

    +3

    re: long overdue

    The problem is, if the music is still compressed, 24-bit is just a gimmick.

    And only newer music is sure to be real 24-bit mastered - older stuff, except for some of the biggest performers, has not ever been 24-bit remastered. There are many great albums that have never even been properly remastered for CD - the studios just used the LP masters and copied them to CDs.


  1. samirsshah

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    Joined: Oct 2010

    -2

    I do not why but

    I am all for it. Intuitive conjecture (not supported by facts): This WILL RELEASE MUSIC FROM THE SHACKLES OF MP3 AND AAC.

    All concerned parties should meet and decide on a standard that will replace mp3 and aac and promote it heavily. mp3 and aac have become lowest common denominator technologies and are ripe for being replaced.

    The quality of sound may even bring many people back from YouTube watching.

    DO NOT MAKE THE MISTAKE OF BRINGING THIS MUSIC IN PHYSICAL FORMAT, KEEP IT ONLY FOR DOWNLOAD.


  1. richardh99

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    Joined: Feb 2006

    +2

    They'll get my money...

    I almost never buy downloadable tracks because of the poor quality - atm I just buy the olde CD and rip it, filing the CD away as a backup. If I can get Lossless online, I'll buy online. Simples.


  1. testudo

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    Joined: Aug 2001

    +2

    yawn

    And most people just won't care. Audiophiles (the small minority who have the ear to tell the notes and the minor detail AND appreciate it) care. But a vast majority are just blasting music out of their car or home stereos, ipods, headphones, etc, and just won't hear a difference.

    h***, how many of them ripped/listen to 128kbps MP3, for goodness sakes?


  1. vinnieA2

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    Joined: Mar 2005

    +1

    this ain't gonna get you there...

    Yes, it is 24 bits, but it is STILL being sold in a compressed format that is lossy. So it will not be equivalent to a master recording. The other problem is, the D/A converter in your iPod or Mac is not audiophile quality. Good for the task it needs to do -- pump out decent audio to some crappy earbuds, but not great.

    Someone else commented on hoping for 96kHz files... technically speaking, you will have better frequency response (which most people will probably not appreciate) but you have a _much_ bigger file. Much bigger, just for a slight improvement in high end frequency response. If you are interested in these kinds of files, you need to be thinking FLAC files and fairly substantial hard disk space.

    24 bit files mainly have a lowered noise floor (which isn't a major problem for most digitally recorded music anyway) and more head room when you are recording. Head room and dynamic range are nice, but most music is pretty highly compressed (audio compression, not digital file compression) these days, so dynamic range is pretty limited in music you are purchasing either on CD or elsewhere. Having something in 24 bit doesn't necessarily make it appreciably higher in fidelity. But it does avoid the little bit of degradation or interpolation when you go from 24bit to 16. Most people won't notice this all that much either.


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