PCI Express group crafting 32Gbps rival to Thunderbolt

updated 11:10 pm EDT, Wed June 22, 2011

PCI Express to get Thunderbolt-like interconnect


The PCI Special Interest Group has started a plan to develop a variant on PCI Express 3.0 that would challenge the Thunderbolt format from Apple and Intel. Its as yet unnamed format would be more than three times faster at 32Gbps, and eight billion transfers per second, with the same peak four lanes of data at distances of up to 10 feet. It too would carry power on copper wires, up to as much as 20W, and would have a flatter cable than the small but round Thunderbolt wire.

A four-year roadmap would see both optical and upgraded copper connections. When complete, it could double the transfers to 16 billion per second and work on PCIe 4.0. Work was only just beginning and could see the spec completed only nine to 18 months from when work starts in July. Shipping products would ideally be ready before June 2013.

Members at the SIG intend the format primarily as an interconnect and an external port for regular computers but also see it as a future option for tablets that might need very fast external drives. The group has declined to address concerns about Thunderbolt competition directly but see the new version of PCIe 3.0 as another option.

Intel isn't expected to remain still with Thunderbolt and has already promised speeds as high as 100Gbps in the next few years. It may feel pressure from PCI Express since the faster interconnect would let computer builders avoid restrictions on Thunderbolt's use. Intel currently requires that Thunderbolt use its own controller chip and is likely keen to hurt AMD and ARM.


By Electronista Staff

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  1. boris_cleto

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    FUD

    Oh don't adopt that. We might have something better in 2 years.


  1. chas_m

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    Thunderbolt to reach 100Gbps by that point

    Okay, probably not in "nine to 18 months" but you know what, these guys won't be to market with their stuff in that time frame either.


  1. cg0def

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    Good luck to PCI Express ...

    @chas_m absolutely agree with you. PCI Express is forgetting that Thunderbolt was actually designed to use a fiber for data transfer and was only downgraded to coper in order to reduce costs. So basically what this means to PCI Express is that in a year's time if Intel chooses to they can release a much faster version of Thunderbolt. Now that is not going to happen that soon because there is no need for it just yet but you will get it eventually. Oh and unlike Firewire which was ruined by TI's poor marketing and greed, Intel will get this in your PC sooner than you think. But hey you don't have to take my word for it. Just wait a couple of years and then we'll talk.

    Oh and as to the article, Thunderbolt is NOT an Apple technology or a standard. The closes that Apple gets to any design of the standard is picking the silly name. The technology is however very much up Jobs' street in terms of allowing you to use one cable for connecting several devices.


  1. testudo

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    Um....

    If we listened to your all's argument, we wouldn't even have thunderbolt at this point. You'd be saying "Bah! Firewire will be well past that by now!".

    Which, it is. Just no one uses it.


  1. testudo

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    Re: Good luck to PCI Express ...

    @chas_m absolutely agree with you. PCI Express is forgetting that Thunderbolt was actually designed to use a fiber for data transfer and was only downgraded to coper in order to reduce costs.

    Yes, I'm sure the PCI Express group are filled with a bunch of idiots who 'forgot' what Thunderbolt is or what Intel has planned for in the future. That's it, I'm sure.

    So basically what this means to PCI Express is that in a year's time if Intel chooses to they can release a much faster version of Thunderbolt.

    Except you also forget that the proposed fiber format was still targeted at 10Gbps. And you're ignoring the fact that they did switch to copper. Was that just because copper was 'good enough', 'cheaper', or were there some difficulties with the fiber that they need to address (and, thus, cause delays in your expectations)?

    Oh and unlike Firewire which was ruined by TI's poor marketing and greed, Intel will get this in your PC sooner than you think.

    And why will Intel be getting this in your PC sooner than you think? Because they have a vested interest in getting everyone to use it, since they control/own it, and, as such, they want as many licensees as possible. You know, greed, just like you complain about TI.

    And maybe in a couple of years there will be some thunderbolt adapters to actually use with the port, as opposed to now, where there still isn't anything.


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