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Apple iCloud may run on Amazon AWS, Microsoft Azure servers

updated 12:20 pm EDT, Sat September 3, 2011

Apple may use Amazon, Microsoft for iCloud help

Apple's iCloud service might not just run on non-Mac servers but use outside services, rumors divulged Friday. The remote media sharing and pushing is believed to use a mix of Amazon Web Services (AWS) and Microsoft Azure to load content. Register contacts understood that Apple wanted to outsource as it wasn't logical for a company focused on "building great consumer experiences" to go to the effort of creating every aspect of the cloud infrastructure from scratch.

Azure would be used for computing, controlling, and SQL database storage. AWS would only be used for storage, but it would be "striped," or unified like in a RAID 0 array, with the Microsoft component. Along with providing more headroom, it would potentially lead to a speed improvement. Data would be broken down into individual files that could be spread across the different servers and services, letting multiple devices serve the content and increasing the potential bandwidth.

Two were chosen to create a level of redundancy. Apple could not only shift temporarily to one or the other in the event of an outage but wouldn't be held captive by Amazon or Microsoft if they decided to hike rates.

Confirmation, if the story is accurate, might be difficult or impossible. Apple has reportedly demanded that Amazon and Microsoft not discuss the iCloud deal. Privately, Microsoft is believed to be extremely happy as it clinches a major customer for a business that has been struggling. iCloud represents a "very visible workload" for Microsoft, which regularly loses hundreds of millions of dollars in its attempt to compete with Google and other cloud-heavy rivals.

No matter the involvement, Apple is already using competitors' products to process some of its new download and streaming services. Its North Carolina datacenter is known to be using HP servers, most likely ProLiant DL300 systems, and to be running Teradata Extreme Data Appliances for storage. Its decisions to drop the Xserve and Xserve RAID likely wouldn't have had much effect as Microsoft often demands Windows for certain parts of Azure.



By Electronista Staff
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  1. andrewbw

    Fresh-Faced Recruit

    Joined: Jan 2001

    +6

    Nothing new here

    At the highest levels of enterprise, you make decisions based on what's the appropriate tools for the job, not on petty brand or emotional reasons. I think people mired in in the "NO MY BRAND IS BETTER!" battles on internet message boards would be surprised to learn, for example, how much Oracle software and equipment is used at Google, or Microsoft elements at Apple, or Cisco equipment at HP, and so on. Or look at the fact that Samsung is a huge supplier to Apple, and likely always will be, despite the fact that Apple is trying to sue Samsung Mobile into the stone age. Business at these levels is this strange mix of deep cooperation and knife throwing, all at the same time.

  1. LunarMoon

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    Joined: Jan 2008

    +1

    bullshit

    So, Apple is crazy, because they are finishing their 3rd huge data center. Perhaps they will use this new data center to just sit there and increase global warming. Nowadays one publishes anything out of thin air to get clicks.

  1. Arne_Saknussemm

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    Joined: Apr 2011

    -7

    Apple's datacenter...

    Is full of Dell hardware and Microsoft software.

  1. benghaith

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    Joined: Sep 2011

    -6

    Shame on Apple!

    This step that Apple made is unholy!!

  1. facebook_John

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    +2

    Apple uses there own hardware and software

    Apple uses there own hardware and software. They didn't build that North Carolina data center to put unstable PC's in it. Rumor is FUD.

  1. facebook_John

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    Joined: Sep 2011

    +1

    Apple uses there own hardware and software

    Apple uses there own hardware and software. They didn't build that North Carolina data center to put unstable PC's in it. Rumor is FUD.

  1. facebook_Pejmon

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    Joined: Oct 2011

    0

    They do use AmazonAWS

    If you setup iTunes Match and have your iDevice (running iOS 5 GM) download music from your cloud library, you'll notice under /media/downloads that new folders are being made as a temporary middle man for the files to be place inside the library. Look inside one and check the plist. This is what I saw for one of my songs, both the artwork and the song are brought over from the S3 servers






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      artworkURL
      https://s3-external-1.amazonaws.com/apple-sg-us-std-000007/44d0514c-e86f-8d9a-5e48-b4cc3dbeb261%2Fimage?Expires=1318037328&AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAJNPXUC5YBPMGFGFA&Signature=MAGwzUavOFqgPO62cMR09Be1t9A%3D
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        Dev
        cloud-id
        93730
        comments
       
        composerName
        Niles Hollowell-Dhar, David Singer-Vine & Devin Tailes
        dateAdded
        1970-01-23T15:44:17Z
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        1
        discNumber
        1
        duration
        219760
        explicit
        0
        fileExtension
        m4a
        gapless
       
        genre
        Pop
        itemId
        458479481
        itemName
        In the Dark (feat. Flo Rida)
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        song
        playlistArtistName
        Dev
        playlistName
        In the Dark (feat. Flo Rida) - Single
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