IDC: Windows 8 will be 'largely irrelevant' beyond tablets

updated 01:45 pm EST, Mon December 5, 2011

IDC expects Windows 8 to do little for normal PCs


Windows 8 will be "largely irrelevant" to anyone who isn't using a tablet PC variant, IDC analysts predicted this weekend. Suggesting it was even more true than for Windows 7, System Software research VP Al Gillen and others saw any Windows 8 upgrades coming as part of the regular PC refresh cycle. Most of the changes revolve around touch, something which is largely non-existent on the desktop.

"We expect effectively no upgrade activity from Windows 7 to Windows 8 in that form factor," IDC said.

While it would help tablets, Windows 8 was already expected to face a "disappointing" take-up in the market. Microsoft had a "tall order" in not only trying to make a good tablet experience but achieve the same effect on both ARM- and Intel-based tablets in a market where the iPad was the unambiguous leader. "While the x86 tablet strategy makes sense as a transitional solution for today’s PC users, it will be the ARM-based devices that need to shine and clear a high bar already set by Apple," IDC added.

Many of the rumors have had Microsoft taking as close to an iPad-like model as possible for ARM-based Windows 8 tablets. Along with having chip designers working closely with only specific PC builders, it may be dropping the conventional destkop on non-Intel tablets, both to create a consistent experience but also to spur developers to write tablet-native apps.

The estimates still had some time between prediction and reality. IDC still saw Windows 8 being completed as late as August, roughly two and a half years after the first iPad. They still represent a mounting view that Windows tablets will stay in the minority and that challenge Microsoft's view that Windows is a permanent fixture in technology. [via XDNet]


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  1. climacs

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    +10

    eh...

    we'll see... but given Microsoft's track record, I have no faith that Windows 8 is going to put them anywhere near being on an equal footing with Apple and iPad.


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  1. testudo

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    and...

    If MS was smart, they'd look at the fallout from the whole Lion debacle (yes, it's a debacle, sorry to say it). Desktop users do not want a tablet-like interface. And just because something works on a tablet (or phone) doesn't mean the paradigm will work on the desktop (just like we all know the opposite is also true).


  1. Paul Huang

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    +11

    Windows 7 is the new WindowsXP

    Read it and weep, Microsoft.


  1. LunarMoon

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    irrelevance

    In fact, Microsoft is completely irrelevant to anyone. Windows just sells because computer vendors have to install it on their machines. If Microsoft had to sell the OS, it would go bankrupt in 3 seconds. Microsoft is a company with just one application that sells by itself: MS Office.


  1. DrSkywalker

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    Desktop Touch is relevant but...

    ergonomically it makes no sense. Nobody wants the RSI that will come with constantly reaching waving arms about in space all day long. Looks s*** on Minority Report, but not real world practical. HOWEVER Apple's implementation of touch with the Magic Trackpad and Lion IS good and viable. Small, compact movements, full use of multi-touch features - excellent. I don't even use my mouse much anymore - except for games. Yes, Launchpad is flawed but it's actually a step in the right direction - easy access to the apps you want to get at. Needs some better implementation and the ability to remove apps and make the screen more tidy, but it's not a failure.


  1. SockRolid

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    The curse of "good enough"

    XP has been "good enough" for Windows users for over 10 years. As of October 2011, 33.4% of Windows users are *still* using XP. The only reason your average consumer upgrades Windows is because the old PC doesn't work any more. Because of malware, viruses, and/or hardware failure due to substandard lowest-cost components.

    Vista wasn't "good enough." But Windows 7 is "good enough." And Windows users will stick with 7 for another 10 years. Paul Huang is right. Windows 7 is the new Windows XP. Unfortunately for Microsoft, the old XP is still there too. And people will keep on using it until their PC dies.


  1. facebook_Dana

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    Metro on the Desktop?

    I've used the Windows 8 developer preview and the lack of a Start menu is a HUGE oversight. Having to jump back and forth between the Metro interface and traditional Windows UI is such a jarring experience, i couldn't see anyone wanting to use Win8 on a desktop. By the same token, using the Windows UI on a tablet is also painful (anyone who's used Citrix on the iPad can attest to this). I really don't know what Microsoft is doing.


  1. testudo

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    Re: The curse of "good enough"

    XP has been "good enough" for Windows users for over 10 years.

    The difference between Apple and MS is MS doesn't control the computer. For many people, Leopard (or Snow Leopard) is well good enough. But Apple, controlling the hardware, is able to make Snow Leopard unusable on newer computers. Thus, you HAVE to upgrade when you get a new computer.

    MS tried to force upgrades by discontinuing support, but their user base wouldn't let them. Apple just ignores their user base (the large collection of people who find Lion unusable or a step backwards).


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