Analysts choose to exclude Apple from S&P 500 forecasts

updated 03:50 pm EST, Wed February 15, 2012

Company disrupting views of American economy


Some financial analysts are having to omit Apple from results to properly track the Standard & Poor 500 stock index, notes the Wall Street Journal. Apple shares are currently worth over $500 each, making the company biggest in the US in terms of market cap, valued at over $475 billion. As a consequence, though, analysts with firms like UBS AG, Morgan Stanley, Goldman Sachs, Barclays Capital, and Wells Fargo have decided that Apple is distorting views of the US economy.

UBS remarks that with all companies included, S&P earnings are predicted to have risen about 6.6 percent year-over-year in the fourth quarter. Taking out Apple shrinks the growth to just 2.8 percent. "By stripping away that one single company, it is like seeing light through a prism -- you see things more clearly," says UBS' Jonathan Golub.

Apple made approximately $13.1 billion in profit off of $46.3 billion in revenue during the quarter, generating about 6 percent of S&P earnings during the period. The effect is amplified when narrowing focus down to technology companies; Goldman Sachs' David Kostin observes that Q4 growth should be 21 percent with Apple, but 5 percent without.

"What's happening with Apple is real, because Apple's earnings are real and any wealth accruing to Apple gets into the hands of US shareholders," adds Barclays Capital's Barry Knapp. "But to actually be able to look at trends and look at what's happening to [other companies], not just the one that's so exceptional, it is important to strip Apple out."


By Electronista Staff

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  1. global.philosopher

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    Seems reasonable

    I doubt Apples stock will remain that high unless they start to buy back stock.

    MS use to have a stock price of over $600.


  1. c4rlob

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    USApple Economy

    Wow, Apple is doing so well, and the rest of the country is doing so poorly that Apple is becoming the economy! Craziness!


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  1. Thecombinationis12345

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    Apple just closed off a huge chunk of their market in China. They're not going to behave according to the market. Also, Apple's entire ecosystem has a rather large weakness moving forward in respect to hybridization of mobile devices. They've separated the Tablet, handheld, and desktop software markets which makes hybridization a messy proposition. Google and Microsoft, on the other hand, are better poised to hybridize their mobile devices and simplify their ecosystems. They can easily center their Home/office software and hardware around smartphones that can become tablets, notebooks, and desktops via docks. They're also better positioned for SAAS.


  1. Salty

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    Right

    Right because iOS doesn't share ANY of the same roots with OS X, it's not a widely known fact that iOS is so closely related to OS X that if you can write for one you can easily write for the other. As opposed to Microsoft which has a desktop UI, and a Phone UI, and now a Tablet UI that's based on their phone but runs on a different platform and can be superseded by their old desktop platform that wasn't meant to run on tablets? (Least not the kind people like.)

    Or Google who pirated Java and then built an OS around it and shoe horned it onto devices without even optimizing the way touch input is processed. Yeah Apple's screwed with those brilliant product strategies to deal with.


  1. BigMac2

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    Wallstreet blindness

    Since the enter of Apple in the stock market, Wallstreet analyst has alway under rated them. And now they proven them wrong, they choose to simply ignore the facts.


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