"though malware, very common in the Android community"

FUD. Try and find actual examples of actual malware causing any real Android user any problem at all. Android is the most popular mobile platform, dominating Apple and chosen by 4 times more people than iOS. Yet with all these millions of android users, I bet you can't find one that has any problem.

Is this bs all the Apple heads can come up with now?

Which universe do you live in?

An Android Trojan grabbing a whole slew of users' bank account info and clearing out their savings was front-page news just this week (at least in this country).

It's not so much that malware is such a huge and massive problem, it's that it's a problem AT ALL, when looking at it from the perspective of iOS users.

Originally Posted by lolwtfbbq

... Android is the most popular mobile platform, dominating Apple and chosen by 4 times more people than iOS. Yet with all these millions of android users, I bet you can't find one that has any problem. ...

If you'd cite some references from reputable news sites to back up your claims of no Android users has that (e.g. malware) problem that'd be helpful. I'd go on to say 4 times more people chose Android because they don't care what they're phone is and Android's good enough.

"An Android Trojan grabbing a whole slew of users' bank account info and clearing out their savings was front-page news just this week (at least in this country)."

Oh... You mean the German scare where *if* a user of an *already* infected PC just happened to also manually download a fake application and side load it, since was never on the official market, then it was possible that in conjunction with using their infected PC and their banks android additional authentication tool they might have had fake withdrawals. And this happened to a total of how many people? And the minor, optional role android played in this scam was even a factor in how few of those?

Sorry, a malware that requires a user to have an infected PC is not much of an "android problem", is it?

Keep on imagining these problems with android that don't exist, if it helps with your rationalizations. The rest of the world is moving on from apple's little child's safety garden and ready for the freedom of a more powerful system.

Originally Posted by cgc


If you'd cite some references from reputable news sites to back up your claims of no Android users has that (e.g. malware) problem that'd be helpful. I'd go on to say 4 times more people chose Android because they don't care what they're phone is and Android's good enough.

How am I supposed to cite references about something that hasn't happened?
They don't talk about all the cars that did not wreck, the storms that did not form, the buildings that did not burn down, or the millions of android devices that never have any problem. Its not very interesting news.

You're right, apparently 4 out of 5 people don't care who makes their phone, as long as it works fine and does everything they want to do, they are happy. Kind of makes sense to me. Makes me wonder about the people who only ever buy one brand though. What are they thinking?

Originally Posted by lolwtfbbq

[...] Try and find actual examples of actual malware causing any real Android user any problem at all. [...]

OK, you asked for it. Here are just a few of the Android malware articles Electronista has posted in the last year and a half.
...

FBI warns Android users of malware app risk
http://www.electronista.com/articles/12/10/15/loozfon.and.finfisher.cited.as.active.malware.concerns/

Android malware up 472% since July, unlikely to slow down
http://www.electronista.com/articles/11/11/16/android.malware.becoming.significant.issue/

New Android malware affecting users, connects to botnet
http://www.electronista.com/articles/12/02/10/android.malware.rootsmart.infecting.phones/

McAfee: Android malware surges 76%, iPhone untouched
http://www.electronista.com/articles/11/08/23/mcafee.shows.android.facing.huge.spike.in.malware/

Android 'fee' malware hidden in legitimate apps
http://www.electronista.com/articles/11/05/31/malware.spotted.in.20.titles.in.android.market/

New Android malware uses Facebook to spread
http://www.electronista.com/articles/12/02/24/googles.precautionary.bouncer.software.not.enough/

New Android malware fakes Google+ to spy on phone calls
http://www.electronista.com/articles/11/08/12/nickispy.malware.for.android.mimics.google.service/

Silent, easily made Android rootkit shown at Black Hat
http://www.electronista.com/articles/10/07/30/security.experts.make.silent.android.malware/

Malicious Android files on a major growth path
http://www.electronista.com/articles/11/04/26/android.malware.sees.huge.increase.since.fall/

Android malware strikes again, this time via hacked sites
http://www.electronista.com/articles/12/05/03/android.hit.by.first.mobile.drive.by.attack/

New Android malware aims at custom ROM users
http://www.electronista.com/articles/11/06/16/android.trojan.jmsmhider.attacks.non.stock.roms/

Android Malware Project to foster security collaboration
http://www.electronista.com/articles/12/05/24/project.between.universities.to.aid.in.android.security/

They are probably thinking that they can buy whatever the hell they want with their money, so why do you care? If they want an iPhone, fine. If the want an Android phone, fine. Why get hostile and defense about it?

Doesn't exist? Are you serious?

Sept 2011- Sept 2012
http://thenextweb.com/google/2012/10/25/in-one-year-android-malware-up-580-23-of-the-top-500-on-google-play-deemed-high-risk/

iPhones have had their share of malware issues as well.
http://www.binaryintel.com/android-iphones-growing-malware-problem-mfc-2012/

Bottom line is neither phone is perfect, to set there and say either one of these are is just naive.

Apple vets every single app before it's allowed in the iTunes App Store.
It's still not perfect (anything involving humans isn't) but it's the best protection available.
Very doubtful this would ever happen with iOS.

Apple's so-called vetting process is pretty bad. It gives iOS users a total false sense of security.

There was the "I am rich" app that swindled people out of a grand - how in the world should that have made it through a real vetting process?

Then there was Path, which was stealing users' address books secretly and without consent.

I know that you really, really want to believe that the Almighty Apple is carefully scrubbing every app that goes through the submission process, but that just isn't happening.

According to this article, as of September 2012 there were over 725,000 apps actively available for download in the Apple App Store. Do you seriously find it logically believable that a company would be able to thoroughly analyze and scrub every single iOS application submitted to the App Store? As others have stated, iOS is not without its share of vulnerabilities and dirty apps that make it onto the App Store.

iOS is a prime target for the underbelly of the programming world, looking to exploit users and steal personal information. It has a huge user base that isn't getting any smaller. The bottom line is that you can't trust any app on your phone to not do something bad, no matter what Apple tries to tell you. As a user, you are ultimately responsible for your own security and privacy. Don't rely on Apple to do it for you. You don't have to be paranoid, but it's no better to be lulled into complacency because Apple wants you to believe you can.

lolwtfbbq, you seriously need to stop sniffing the glue and come down to earth. I've yet to meet an Android owner that HASN'T been scammed or hit with malware.

The hilarious thing is this: like PC owners -- they *refuse* to believe this doesn't happen to everybody!! :lol:

Originally Posted by lolwtfbbq

"though malware, very common in the Android community"
FUD. Try and find actual examples of actual malware causing any real Android user any problem at all. Android is the most popular mobile platform, dominating Apple and chosen by 4 times more people than iOS.

How would we know? No android maker has the guts to report actual sales numbers. They only report shipped numbers. Combine that with web server stats that show more iOS browsers than Android, your claim of 4 times more people is laughable.

Originally Posted by chas_m

lolwtfbbq, you seriously need to stop sniffing the glue and come down to earth. I've yet to meet an Android owner that HASN'T been scammed or hit with malware.
The hilarious thing is this: like PC owners -- they *refuse* to believe this doesn't happen to everybody!! :lol:

I've never been scammed. There

Originally Posted by blahblahbber

I've never been scammed. There

The best victims are the ones who don't know they've been had.

Originally Posted by msuper69

Apple vets every single app before it's allowed in the iTunes App Store.
It's still not perfect (anything involving humans isn't) but it's the best protection available.
Very doubtful this would ever happen with iOS.

Please. This crap happens all the time in the app store.

IntelliScreenX Scam Hits The App Store And Should Be Avoided At All Costs

A feature only available in jailbroken phones. Think Apple honestly even looked at this one?

Originally Posted by chefpastry


The best victims are the ones who don't know they've been had.

Right, so is this how you learned?? I won't even get into my pet peaves to satisfy you. Im getting a bit lazy now that the crApple status is now self-evident for the public to take notice. Less work for me!! :)