It seems with every new update from Apple...

Users have to be ever more cautious

Yes, because Android updates never have these sorts of problems. Oh wait, did I say never? I meant constantly. The Android forums are full of such complaints: Issue 35481 - android - [4.1.1] Reduced battery life - Android - An Open Handset Alliance Project - Google Project Hosting

But hey, to be fair to Android -- you're likely to encounter fewer instances of an update having a bug in them because you're only going to ever be allowed maybe ONE major update (if you're lucky) by your provider unless you bought a Nexus device. So with only one upgrade allowed, you're much less likely than an iPhone owner to ever experience an upgrade bug! WINNING!!

Originally Posted by chas_m

Yes, because Android updates never have these sorts of problems. Oh wait, did I say never? I meant constantly. The Android forums are full of such complaints: Issue 35481 - android - [4.1.1] Reduced battery life - Android - An Open Handset Alliance Project - Google Project Hosting

But hey, to be fair to Android -- you're likely to encounter fewer instances of an update having a bug in them because you're only going to ever be allowed maybe ONE major update (if you're lucky) by your provider unless you bought a Nexus device. So with only one upgrade allowed, you're much less likely than an iPhone owner to ever experience an upgrade bug! WINNING!!

Did I miss where someone mentioned Android?

Originally Posted by gradient

Did I miss where someone mentioned Android?

Yes exactly. Just another immature, defensive, insecure Apple fanboi defending the mothership.

Originally Posted by chas_m

But hey, to be fair to Android -- you're likely to encounter fewer instances of an update having a bug in them because you're only going to ever be allowed maybe ONE major update (if you're lucky) by your provider unless you bought a Nexus device. So with only one upgrade allowed, you're much less likely than an iPhone owner to ever experience an upgrade bug! WINNING!!

You obviously have never heard of, or used a Nexus phone.

Are you trying to play dumb or are you really that ignorant?

Originally Posted by gradient

Did I miss where someone mentioned Android?

So you're saying Arne's obvious troll wasn't obvious to you, because you don't pay attention to posting history.

That's okay.

Originally Posted by Spheric Harlot

So you're saying Arne's obvious troll wasn't obvious to you, because you don't pay attention to posting history.

That's okay.

Wow, and here I thought you were one of the regulars around here that was reasonable and even thoughtful with their posts. Why the hell you are jumping on me and essentially calling me stupid, I don't know.

My post was in response to Chas_m's posting history of constantly attacking newer members for any number of reasons and just generally being a bully around here. Sure, some of them are trolls but many of them aren't and even if they are his tone is often completely uncalled for. He's only gotten worse since MacNN Staff was removed from his handle.

Lo and behold, all I did was manage to attract another bully. Bravo.

I seriously hate the Internet sometimes.

Originally Posted by gradient

Wow, and here I thought you were one of the regulars around here that was reasonable and even thoughtful with their posts. Why the hell you are jumping on me and essentially calling me stupid, I don't know.

I'm pretty sure I didn't call you stupid.

But Arne and wrenchy are the resident news-comment Android astroturfers.

I'm pretty sure that stating so isn't really offensive to anyone, and certainly shouldn't be to you. :P

I was actually half-joking. I occasionally respond to stuff without taking into account who posted it, falling for a troll or a joke.

folks folks folks...

chas_m is a shill for crApple. Remember that!!

Well, at least we know that YOU aren't a shill FOR anyone in particular, just AGAINST.

Can we all please just grow up!

• None of the comments posted here so far have anything to do with what has been reported.
• No one posting is making any kind of contribution towards resolving what appears to be a problem for some iPhone users with regard to the iOS 6.1 update for the 4S, 3G and battery drain issues.

I respectfully suggest that if you cannot make a suggestion towards figuring out how to improve or solve the apparent issue that some users are experiencing, you STFU! Otherwise, you are just crippling the fantastic resource that MacNN is trying to provide.

Sorry, I just had to vent.

This is the Tech News comments section, not the community support forum section.

I suggest you shift over to the appropriate forum: iPod, iPhone & iPad - MacNN Forums

As many of the regulars at this forum want nothing to do with the endless news posts and trolls that comment them, and thus never see this section at all.